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Randomly_insane Quote | Reply | | Aceh posted on: 7/1/2003 9:53:18 AM so who's right? the province who thinks they can support em selves but really can't..? or the government who doesn't want to lose a big chunk of its tourist money.........? |
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Randomly_insane
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Aceh
replied on: 7/4/2003 6:52:13 AM i take it no ones even heard about the crisis in Aceh then eh? |
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Nuisance
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replied on: 7/4/2003 11:29:40 PM Yeah, have heard. All of this stuff going on in Indonesia is fairly strange and complex, still trying to find out more. You had East Timor which the Indonesians had occupied fairly recently and thus them re-gaining there independance again was something that I think they deserved. On the otherhand Aceh seems to have been part of Indonesia for a long time and only a percentage of the people want there independance. I think both sides have performed some pretty henious acts which clouds the issue even more. Hopefully they can come to a peacfull solution where all the people involved from Indonesia as well as the pro-seperatists and non-separatists in Aceh are happy. Saying who is right though is tough as there seems to be many points of view. |
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Randomly_insane
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replied on: 7/5/2003 11:33:41 AM  cool , i was starting to think i was for once the only one who new about something  yeah , your right it is pretty complicated..but stil , can YOU think of any sort of compromise between them? its a huuuuuugeeee mess 
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GageAgainstTheMachine
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Aceh
replied on: 7/6/2003 9:49:32 PM Sorry, I'm alittle unware here. What is the situation? |
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Nuisance
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replied on: 7/7/2003 5:15:20 AM Hey Gage, Welcome back, long time no see Aceh (or Acheh as the ones seeking independance call it) is a province of Indonesia who want to gain independance. If you do a bit of search for the "Free Aceh Movement" or "Acheh Sumatra National Liberation Front" you should find a bit of stuff relating to them. It is all confused because the movement seems to have now split in two, one willing to negotiate with Indonesia, one not. There has also been a bit of fighting recently in the province with Indonesia sending in the troops to put down the uprising. Both sides accusing the other of attrocities. Foreign journalists are banned from the area, as are tourists who are arrested on site. out, Nuisance |
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Randomly_insane
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replied on: 7/23/2003 6:54:30 PM ey , i haven't heard anything about this for a fair while now......... any one know where the situations at now? any big developments , or is everthing still the same? |
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Nuisance
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replied on: 7/29/2003 7:35:47 AM Kylie, Unfortunately this seems to have been swept under the carpet by the media now that North Korea and the Solomon Islands issue has occured. It is also not helped by the fact that Indonesia now controls all media access to the province, banning all foreign news reporters and heavily restricting Indonesian reporters, so any news is hard to get. It appears that Indonesia has mounted the biggest military action since they took control of East Timor. It is believed around 540 people have been killed so far. Indonesia claims they were all rebels, the rebels claim about 30 were rebels the rest were ordinary citizens. It is estimated approximately 100 soldiers have been killed. Talks were attempted in Tokyo but they broke down, not helped by the fact that Indonesia arrested 3 of the negotiators for the rebels on the way to the airport. They were released but when the talks broke down were re-arrested and are now on trial for treason and terrorism and face the death penalty if convicted. Out, Nuisance |
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Randomly_insane
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Aceh
replied on: 8/1/2003 8:05:09 AM well holly shite. thanx nuisance hey , by the by , where do you get all yrou info on it from? i've been looking around but can't find anything up to date..... |
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Nuisance
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Aceh
replied on: 8/1/2003 8:56:26 AM no probs Random. I usually get my stuff from doing searches against news.google.com as well as normal google searches |
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Kaiser_Sosae
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Aceh
replied on: 8/1/2003 9:45:05 PM Thats fucked up!!! |
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Randomly_insane
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replied on: 8/9/2003 8:24:33 AM wow , for once it wasn't me who made the most "deep and thougthful" comment good job kaiser , you just made my day  and tahnx a bunch nuisance. you just amde my life a whole lot easier
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