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subtrhomsikalien Moses Quote \| Reply \|	How would you rate the outcome of the Iraq war? replied on: 7/10/2003 10:47:18 PM oh wow, canada won the war of 1812! no wait, wasnt it US vs FRANCE. ha, thats even worse.
GageAgainstTheMachine Poltical Mod Quote \| Reply \|	How would you rate the outcome of the Iraq war? replied on: 7/10/2003 10:53:08 PM No shit, that's because the Dominion of Canada hadn't been created in 1812. It was Lower Canada (predominantly French) that headed most of the warfare. No, I mean, war with tanks, scuds and smart bombs. Killing more than 3000. 9/11 was one shot. A war does no consist of one boat, one plan or one bomb. Sorry, I don't mesh well with narrowminded individuals such as yourself. A war is different from an attack.
GageAgainstTheMachine Poltical Mod Quote \| Reply \|	How would you rate the outcome of the Iraq war? replied on: 7/10/2003 10:56:31 PM People in LA or Minnesota etc. Sure, they were hurt by the attacks on the WTC. But they haven't witnessed the horror. There is NO WAY that you can say that the acts of 9/11 brought the same mass civilian terror as the Gulf War or the War On Terror.
subtrhomsikalien Moses Quote \| Reply \|	How would you rate the outcome of the Iraq war? replied on: 7/11/2003 2:46:09 AM hmmm, well i think all loss of human life is trajic. how am i narrow minded? if you cant back up that claim, then thats a personal attack i think it is pretty unfair to call me narrow minded. i make an honest effort to understand both sides of an issue and if you have any ideas on how i can be less bias, please let me know. actually, i am corresponding with muslim in indonesia and we have had some great disscussions about issues ranging from 9/11 to the israel/palestinian conflict and the war in iraq. minus the personal attacks from both parties i dont blindly support america or its policies and i openly admit that in recent years and throughout history my government has made many mistakes.
subtrhomsikalien Moses Quote \| Reply \|	How would you rate the outcome of the Iraq war? replied on: 7/11/2003 3:25:46 AM "There is NO WAY that you can say that the acts of 9/11 brought the same mass civilian terror as the Gulf War or the War On Terror." actually, it did because of the media coverage. i remeber the day it happend EVERY channel on the T.V. was covering it, even the majority of cable networks. pictures of the twin towers burning were on the cover of every newspaper the next day. T.V., radio, newpapers, magazines ( the october issue of RollingStone was totally devoted to 9/11), literally every form of mass media had unrelenting coverage. i can honestly tell you that 9/11 was the most depressing day of my life. The following months were extreamly emotionally draining and terrifying for most americans and for me. that is the genious of terrorism, all they have to do is make one attack and no matter what people will live in fear. americans will spend billions of dollars on security and counless nights awake in bed in fear of an attack that may never come. the arab world and the 19 saudis knew what america would do in resposne to 9/11. america is doing exactly what the terrorist want. the question is, what was the arab world trying to accomplish with the acts of 9/11? i dont understand why they didnt wait for nukes so they could have killed 300,000 americans insted of 3000. any ideas?
subtrhomsikalien Moses Quote \| Reply \|	How would you rate the outcome of the Iraq war? replied on: 7/11/2003 3:42:17 AM no matter how much shit we throw at eachother, i still want to correspond with you gage. i want to understand your perspective, i swear. please give me a chance.
GageAgainstTheMachine Poltical Mod Quote \| Reply \|	How would you rate the outcome of the Iraq war? replied on: 7/11/2003 11:04:22 AM Yeah, thats cool. I always end up pissing off people when I discuss politics. How about a truce that what happens in this thread, stays in this thread. Cheers. I gotta go to work, but, trust me, I have a lot to retort about what you posted. Cheers!
subtrhomsikalien Moses Quote \| Reply \|	How would you rate the outcome of the Iraq war? replied on: 7/11/2003 5:18:02 PM cant wait
GageAgainstTheMachine Poltical Mod Quote \| Reply \|	How would you rate the outcome of the Iraq war? replied on: 7/11/2003 11:08:44 PM You regularily takes things way out of context. I called you narrowminded because you fail to see this difference between a 6 month war and a terrorist attack. You say that ALL Americans were shook by the images, grief and news in the media... ...so this is equal to an entire third world nation being attacked by the strongest military force in the world. Living their lives not knowing which corner of their country would be the next target. Corresponding with a Muslim is great. What do you want a cookie? I'm sure many soldiers and war leaders work and converse with individuals of Middle Eastern decent. That doesn;t justify their perspectives that they can inflict widespread suffering under the false intentions of ridding evil forces or destroying the ellusive WMDs. 9/11 was the fruit of many events where US forces/gov't bodies take the upper hand in foreign countries. They don't have much going for them. They attack the oil rich nation of Iraq, with whom they have a history of tensions. Yet, they bipass North Korea. An unexploitable nation governed by an "evil" man who bosts of nuclear programs and their willingness to use these technolgoies. Listen, we're digressing. The whole point of my argument was that, in North America, the vast majority of the public has not lived through war or such conditions. So, how can the U.S. be the leading purveyor of warfare and the international "police" in virtually all matters. WE CAN NOT SAY THAT WAR IS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THE IRAQI PEOPLE UNLESS WE HAVE BEEN THE VICTIMS OF WAR OURSELVES.
GageAgainstTheMachine Poltical Mod Quote \| Reply \|	How would you rate the outcome of the Iraq war? replied on: 7/11/2003 11:12:10 PM Above all, I believe that America should place more concern on fixing rather than starting. Sure, you've won over many of the Iraqi people. But make sure they live and thrive to pass on that positive sentiment. Rather, more emphasis is placed on snubbing out anti-american sentiments in the nation. Whats this? Now their claiming that Africa had plans for sending dangerous materials to Iran. That's it. Point the finger of blaim at the most defenceless area of the world. More efforts should be placed upon aid to both regions.
subtrhomsikalien Moses Quote \| Reply \|	How would you rate the outcome of the Iraq war? replied on: 7/12/2003 12:31:56 AM uh well, lets just can it then on that topic, i think saying that "america has to have a war in its borders to declare war" is unfair and untrue. so you think that american shouldnt have entered WWII? hey, its not like all americans are blaming africa. bush said that in his state of the union address, but our government agrees that they made a mistake and the intel was wrong. liberia is ASKING for help from the U.S. ...and yes gage, i do want a cookie. why did you have to say that? you always talk down to people.
GageAgainstTheMachine Poltical Mod Quote \| Reply \|	How would you rate the outcome of the Iraq war? replied on: 7/12/2003 11:50:02 AM And you were the one who called me a "16 year old girl who just got dumped". You're sounding awfully whiny now. Sure, if I am opposed to something that is said on here, I will voice my opinion and disagree. You just happen to see that as speaking down. Just take a look at your words before you make accusations. The U.S. entered WW2 with the same merits that it has now. However, the reaction by America remains consistent in today's events. 1. America gets hit by a single attack. 2. America responds with a largely uncalled for massive attack. 3. America scratches its head and wonders why much of the world dislikes their actions.
GageAgainstTheMachine Poltical Mod Quote \| Reply \|	How would you rate the outcome of the Iraq war? replied on: 7/12/2003 11:51:20 AM Haha, man, are we the only people who visit this section of the forum? I'm begining to think so. I hate that it becomes a personal dog fight seen as the only discussion lies between us.
subtrhomsikalien Moses Quote \| Reply \|	How would you rate the outcome of the Iraq war? replied on: 7/12/2003 3:52:08 PM gage, you have to try this before they change it, you will shit yourself with laughter... 1) Go to Google.com; 2) type in (but don’t hit enter): “weapons of mass destruction”; 3) Hit the “I’m feeling lucky” button, instead of the normal “Google search” button; 4) read what appears to be a normal error message carefully.
GageAgainstTheMachine Poltical Mod Quote \| Reply \|	How would you rate the outcome of the Iraq war? replied on: 7/12/2003 11:12:16 PM Man, that is fucking hillarious!~
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