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Evil Races -- Undead/Spirits
Unit Offensive Strength Defensive Strength Special Ability Cost
Skeleton/Phantom: 2.5 0 ALMOST Never Dies. 225p, 0r
Ghoul/Banshee: 0 2.5 ALMOST Never Dies. 225p, 0r
Progeny/Ghost: 2 4 ALMOST Never Dies, some enemy units killed in battle turn into Ghouls/Skeletons (Undead) or Phantoms/Banshees (Spirit) and join your army IF BATTLE WON WHEN YOU ATTACK, Flight (no need for boats). 900p, 0r
Vampire/Spectre: 4 3 ALMOST Never Dies. Attacking a target 70% of your land size or larger, and some enemy units killed in battle turn into Progeny (Undead) or Ghosts (Spirit) and join your army IF BATTLE WON WHEN YOU ATTACK. Attacking a target 50% - 70% of your land size, and some enemy units killed in battle turn into Ghouls/Skeletons (Undead) or Phantoms/Banshees (Spirit) and join your army IF BATTLE WON WHEN YOU ATTACK. Flight (no need for boats). 1050p, 0r
  • Undead
  • Max Population: +10%
  • Mana Production: +10%
  • Food Consumption: -10%
  • Defensive Strength: +5%
  • Wizards: Immortal
  • Spirit
  • Max Population: +10%
  • Food Consumption: -25%
  • Defensive Strength: +5%
  • Wizards: Immortal
  • Both
  • Home Land Type: Swamp
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    Special Self-Spell for Undead/Spirit
  • Parasitic Hunger: Increases larger percentage of kills in battle to your military after battle. (For Undead, into Undead troops.)
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    		OOP Attker Goals
    posted on: 5/31/2003 4:22:14 PM
    what are good OP/DP goals to shoot for as an oop attker spirit?


    ive run a couple sims and havent done better than 3K OP/ 1.6K DP. i was using alch heavy builds with no DMs and i guess ill try using smithies instead next time. i was jjust hoping to get an idea of wut a good OP would be.

    i was using 50 spies and 20am/10wiz for recon.

    i was starting in 6th wave since i read thats safer as an attker and i have a premium account.

    i came oop with 40k plat/hr in my best try so far.

    ive read elswhere that 1500-3000 dp will suffice, so i guess im just looking for a target OP to shoot for.

    Thanks!
    Regis




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    		OOP Attker Goals
    replied on: 5/31/2003 4:53:15 PM
    Smithies are almost necessary if you plan on having a good army right OOP. They save you 200-250k plat and can be put in much later than alchemies. I'll do a Spirit sim in a little while and post it here so you can get an idea of what you can do.
    Regis




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    		OOP Attker Goals
    replied on: 5/31/2003 5:42:33 PM
    Here is my wave 1 log. Its far below what I expected, and I can see why I haven't even considered Spirit lately. Their troops are just too expensive for the OP and DP they give you. 3164 DP w/ All troops home and Ares on. 2076 Offense, 2595 against humans. Not good at all.

    The Dominion of SimulatedDominion
    Overview
    Ruler: default
    Race: Spirit
    Land: 500
    Peasants: 8,285
    Draftees: 984
    Employment: 98.97%
    Networth: 19,777
    Prestige: 250
    Resources
    Platinum: 262,022
    Food: 34,012
    Lumber: 21,958
    Mana: 7,484
    Ore: 0
    Gems: 13,120
    Boats: 0
    Military
    Morale: 100.00%
    Phantom 0
    Banshee 478
    Ghost 0
    Spectre 519
    Spies: 50
    Wizards: 30
    ArchMages: 10

    The Castle
    Part Rating Points Invested Invest
    Science: +2.17% income 125,936
    Keep: +10.16% max population 365,232
    Towers: +0.00% wizard power 0
    Forges: +0.00% offensive power 0
    Walls: +0.00% defensive power 0
    Irrigation: +8.85% food production 180,000

    Production advisor
    Production /hr
    Platinum: 29,097
    Food: 2,027
    Lumber: 1,000
    Mana: 340
    Ore: 0
    Gems: 1,440
    Consumption /hr
    Food eaten: 1,942
    Food decayed: 340
    Lumber rotted: 220
    Mana drain: 150
    Net change /hr

    Food: -255
    Lumber: 780
    Mana: 190



    ====== SimulationHour: 1 ( 1230 AM day 1 ) ( 1230 AM day 1 ) ======
    Draftrate changed to 20%
    You successfully released 10 Phantom, 10 Banshee, 10 Ghost, 10 Spectre, 10 Spies, 10 Wizards into draftees.
    Construction of 40 Alchemy, 17 Tower, 20 Diamondmine started at a cost of 53900 platinum and 6776 lumber.
    Rezoning begun at a cost of 11250 platinum. The change in land are as following: 45 Plains, -5 Forests, -20 Hills, -20 Water
    Construction of 45 Alchemy started at a cost of 31500 platinum and 3960 lumber.
    You invested 500 gems (6000 points) into: 6000 Science,
    Rezoning begun at a cost of 750 platinum. The change in land are as following: -3 Swamp, 3 Caverns
    Construction of 3 Diamondmine started at a cost of 2100 platinum and 264 lumber.


    ====== SimulationHour: 10 ( 0930 AM day 1 ) ( 0930 AM day 1 ) ======
    Rezoning begun at a cost of 8750 platinum. The change in land are as following: -20 Mountains, 35 Caverns, -15 Forests
    Construction of 35 Diamondmine started at a cost of 24500 platinum and 3080 lumber.


    ====== SimulationHour: 14 ( 0130 PM day 1 ) ( 0130 PM day 1 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Harmony at a cost of 625 mana.


    ====== SimulationHour: 15 ( 0230 PM day 1 ) ( 0230 PM day 1 ) ======
    Exploration for 34 Caverns begun at a cost of 28900 platinum and 136 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 12%
    You have been awarded with 15 Swamp.
    Rezoning begun at a cost of 3885 platinum. The change in land are as following: -15 Swamp, 15 Caverns
    You invested 828 gems (9936 points) into: 9936 Science,


    ====== SimulationHour: 16 ( 0330 PM day 1 ) ( 0330 PM day 1 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 662 mana.
    Construction of 12 Diamondmine started at a cost of 8400 platinum and 1056 lumber.
    3418 Lumber was exchanged for 1709 Platinum.
    Construction of 3 Diamondmine started at a cost of 2100 platinum and 264 lumber.


    ====== SimulationHour: 24 ( 1130 PM day 1 ) ( 1130 PM day 1 ) ======
    You have been awarded with 8692 platinum.
    You invested 3744 gems (44928 points) into: 44928 Keep,


    ====== SimulationHour: 26 ( 0130 AM day 2 ) ( 0130 AM day 2 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Harmony at a cost of 662 mana.
    Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 662 mana.
    You invested 1392 gems (16704 points) into: 16704 Keep,
    Exploration for 105 Plains begun at a cost of 93975 platinum and 420 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 35%


    ====== SimulationHour: 27 ( 0230 AM day 2 ) ( 0230 AM day 2 ) ======
    Construction of 34 Diamondmine started at a cost of 23800 platinum and 2992 lumber.
    You have been awarded with 15 Swamp.


    ====== SimulationHour: 29 ( 0430 AM day 2 ) ( 0430 AM day 2 ) ======
    Rezoning begun at a cost of 4320 platinum. The change in land are as following: 2 Plains, -15 Swamp, 13 Caverns
    Construction of 2 Smithy, 13 Diamondmine started at a cost of 10785 platinum and 1395 lumber.
    You invested 2448 gems (29376 points) into: 29376 Keep,


    ====== SimulationHour: 36 ( 1130 AM day 2 ) ( 1130 AM day 2 ) ======
    You invested 6132 gems (73584 points) into: 73584 Keep,
    Exploration for 5 Plains, 40 Mountains, 10 Swamp begun at a cost of 57915 platinum and 275 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 19%


    ====== SimulationHour: 38 ( 0130 PM day 2 ) ( 0130 PM day 2 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 1047 mana.
    Your wizards successfully casts Harmony at a cost of 1047 mana.
    Exploration for 11 Plains begun at a cost of 17039 platinum and 55 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 4%
    Construction of 72 Smithy started at a cost of 51768 platinum and 6696 lumber.
    You invested 1752 gems (21024 points) into: 21024 Keep,


    ====== SimulationHour: 40 ( 0330 PM day 2 ) ( 0330 PM day 2 ) ======
    Construction of 33 Smithy started at a cost of 25146 platinum and 3432 lumber.
    You invested 2568 gems (30816 points) into: 30816 Keep,


    ====== SimulationHour: 48 ( 1130 PM day 2 ) ( 1130 PM day 2 ) ======
    Construction of 10 Home, 5 Smithy, 40 Barrack started at a cost of 42955 platinum and 5995 lumber.
    You invested 5000 gems (60000 points) into: 60000 Keep,
    You invested 6520 gems (78240 points) into: 78240 Keep,
    You have been awarded with 19624 platinum.
    You invested 13000 lumber (26000 points) into: 26000 Science,


    ====== SimulationHour: 49 ( 1230 AM day 3 ) ( 1230 AM day 3 ) ======
    You have been awarded with 15 Swamp.
    Construction of 15 Home started at a cost of 11715 platinum and 1635 lumber.


    ====== SimulationHour: 50 ( 0130 AM day 3 ) ( 0130 AM day 3 ) ======
    Construction of 11 Farm started at a cost of 9592 platinum and 1463 lumber.
    You invested 880 gems (10560 points) into: 10560 Keep,
    You invested 2000 gems (24000 points) into: 24000 Science,
    Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 1250 mana.
    Your wizards successfully casts Harmony at a cost of 1250 mana.


    ====== SimulationHour: 61 ( 1230 PM day 3 ) ( 1230 PM day 3 ) ======
    Training of 50 Spies, 30 Wizards begun at a cost of 40000 platinum, 0 ore, 80 draftees and 0 wizards
    You have been awarded with 30524 platinum.
    Training of 519 Spectre begun at a cost of 375756 platinum, 0 ore, 519 draftees and 0 wizards


    ====== SimulationHour: 64 ( 0330 PM day 3 ) ( 0330 PM day 3 ) ======
    Training of 478 Banshee begun at a cost of 78870 platinum, 0 ore, 478 draftees and 0 wizards
    You invested 5000 gems (60000 points) into: 60000 Science,
    You invested 5000 gems (60000 points) into: 60000 Irrigation,
    You invested 10000 gems (120000 points) into: 120000 Irrigation,
    Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 1250 mana.


    ====== SimulationHour: 73 ( 1230 AM day 4 ) ( 1230 AM day 4 ) ======
    CStrife




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    		OOP Attker Goals
    replied on: 5/31/2003 8:52:11 PM
    Here's my best one so far. it was wave 5 or 6. (these are hour 73 shots)

    The Dominion of SimulatedDominion
    Overview
    Ruler: default
    Race: Spirit
    Land: 514
    Peasants: 7,171
    Draftees: 81
    Employment: 100.00%
    Networth: 23,875
    Prestige: 250
    Resources
    Platinum: 32,499
    Food: 60,770
    Lumber: 35,608
    Mana: 18,815
    Ore: 0
    Gems: 0
    Boats: 77
    Military
    Morale: 100.00%
    Phantom 456
    Banshee 700
    Ghost 10
    Spectre 566
    Spies: 50
    Wizards: 10
    ArchMages: 20
    *********************
    Production advisor
    Production /hr
    Platinum: 32,243
    Food: 2,831
    Lumber: 1,200
    Mana: 1,000
    Ore: 0
    Gems: 0
    Consumption /hr
    Food eaten: 1,890
    Food decayed: 608
    Lumber rotted: 356
    Mana drain: 376
    Net change /hr

    Food: 333
    Lumber: 844
    Mana: 624
    ********************
    Spell Hours remaining
    Gaia's Watch 1
    Ares' Call 12
    Midas Touch 1
    Harmony 1
    Race Spell 12
    *************************
    Hours until trained Home
    (Training)
    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
    Phantom: - - - - - - - - - - - - 456 (0)
    Banshee: - - 592 102 79 70 51 18 - - - - 700 (912)
    Ghost: - - - - - - - - - - - - 10 (0)
    Spectre: - - - - - - 10 15 15 20 44 - 566(104)
    Spies: - - - - - - - - - - - - 50 (0)
    Wizards: - - - - - - - - - - - - 10 (0)
    Archmages: - - - - - - - - - - - - 20 (0)
    *************************8
    Home: 90 17.51%
    Alchemy: 248 48.25%
    Farm: 50 9.73%
    Tower: 50 9.73%
    Lumberyard: 30 5.84%
    Dock: 30 5.84%
    Barrack: 1 0.19%
    Incoming Buildings: 15 2.92%
    ***********************
    The Castle
    Part Rating Points Invested Invest
    Science: +0.11% income 6,000
    **********************


    3404 OP (3970 v hu)
    modded DP with troops out: 1925

    104 spectres and 912 banshees incoming.

    i was planning on increasing rax and DMs with the land i would conquer.

    the first things to jump out at me were that i could prolly use 10-15 less docks, farms, and towers and use that land for more homes/alchs.

    comments please.... suggestions would be loved!help! oh, and i screwed up my bonuses thats why i have 514 land and not 499.

    *******************


    ====== SimulationHour: 1 ( 0530 AM day 1 ) ( 0530 AM day 1 ) ======
    You have been awarded with 15 Swamp.
    Construction of 40 Alchemy, 20 Tower, 20 Dock started at a cost of 56000 platinum and 7040 lumber.
    Rezoning begun at a cost of 10360 platinum. The change in land are as following: 40 Plains, -20 Forests, -20 Hills
    You successfully released 10 Phantom, 10 Banshee into draftees.
    Exploration for 30 Plains begun at a cost of 26850 platinum and 120 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 10%
    Construction of 40 Alchemy started at a cost of 28000 platinum and 3520 lumber.
    Rezoning begun at a cost of 518 platinum. The change in land are as following: 2 Plains, -2 Mountains
    Construction of 2 Alchemy started at a cost of 1400 platinum and 176 lumber.
    You invested 500 gems (6000 points) into: 6000 Science,


    ====== SimulationHour: 2 ( 0630 AM day 1 ) ( 0630 AM day 1 ) ======
    Exploration for 4 Plains begun at a cost of 3580 platinum and 16 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 2%
    Draftrate changed to 50%


    ====== SimulationHour: 8 ( 1230 PM day 1 ) ( 1230 PM day 1 ) ======
    Rezoning begun at a cost of 9583 platinum. The change in land are as following: 37 Plains, -17 Mountains, -20 Caverns
    Construction of 21 Alchemy started at a cost of 14700 platinum and 1848 lumber.


    ====== SimulationHour: 13 ( 0530 PM day 1 ) ( 0530 PM day 1 ) ======
    Construction of 36 Alchemy started at a cost of 25200 platinum and 3168 lumber.


    ====== SimulationHour: 14 ( 0630 PM day 1 ) ( 0630 PM day 1 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Harmony at a cost of 747 mana.
    Construction of 14 Alchemy started at a cost of 9800 platinum and 1232 lumber.


    ====== SimulationHour: 15 ( 0730 PM day 1 ) ( 0730 PM day 1 ) ======
    Construction of 15 Tower started at a cost of 10500 platinum and 1320 lumber.


    ====== SimulationHour: 16 ( 0830 PM day 1 ) ( 0830 PM day 1 ) ======
    Construction of 1 Barrack started at a cost of 700 platinum and 88 lumber.
    Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 747 mana.


    ====== SimulationHour: 18 ( 1030 PM day 1 ) ( 1030 PM day 1 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Gaia's Watch at a cost of 598 mana.
    Exploration for 23 Plains, 10 Water begun at a cost of 32901 platinum and 132 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 11%


    ====== SimulationHour: 22 ( 0230 AM day 2 ) ( 0230 AM day 2 ) ======
    You have been awarded with 12332 platinum.
    Exploration for 52 Plains begun at a cost of 51844 platinum and 208 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 18%


    ====== SimulationHour: 26 ( 0630 AM day 2 ) ( 0630 AM day 2 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Harmony at a cost of 747 mana.
    Your wizards successfully casts Gaia's Watch at a cost of 598 mana.
    Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 747 mana.


    ====== SimulationHour: 30 ( 1030 AM day 2 ) ( 1030 AM day 2 ) ======
    You have been awarded with 15 Swamp.
    Construction of 13 Alchemy, 10 Farm, 15 Tower, 10 Dock started at a cost of 36576 platinum and 4992 lumber.
    Exploration for 30 Plains, 45 Swamp, 5 Forests begun at a cost of 95920 platinum and 400 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 27%


    ====== SimulationHour: 34 ( 0230 PM day 2 ) ( 0230 PM day 2 ) ======
    Construction of 45 Alchemy, 7 Farm started at a cost of 39624 platinum and 5408 lumber.
    Exploration for 5 Swamp begun at a cost of 7245 platinum and 25 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 2%


    ====== SimulationHour: 38 ( 0630 PM day 2 ) ( 0630 PM day 2 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Gaia's Watch at a cost of 798 mana.
    Your wizards successfully casts Harmony at a cost of 997 mana.
    Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 997 mana.


    ====== SimulationHour: 42 ( 1030 PM day 2 ) ( 1030 PM day 2 ) ======
    Construction of 45 Home, 27 Alchemy, 3 Farm, 5 Lumberyard started at a cost of 65840 platinum and 9600 lumber.


    ====== SimulationHour: 46 ( 0230 AM day 3 ) ( 0230 AM day 3 ) ======
    You have been awarded with 27844 platinum.
    You have been awarded with 15 Swamp.
    Construction of 15 Home started at a cost of 13335 platinum and 2055 lumber.
    Construction of 5 Home started at a cost of 4445 platinum and 685 lumber.


    ====== SimulationHour: 50 ( 0630 AM day 3 ) ( 0630 AM day 3 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Gaia's Watch at a cost of 998 mana.
    Your wizards successfully casts Harmony at a cost of 1247 mana.
    Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 1247 mana.


    ====== SimulationHour: 60 ( 0430 PM day 3 ) ( 0430 PM day 3 ) ======
    Training of 40 Spies, 10 Wizards, 10 Archmages begun at a cost of 35000 platinum, 0 ore, 50 draftees and 10 wizards
    Training of 700 Banshee begun at a cost of 157500 platinum, 0 ore, 700 draftees and 0 wizards
    Training of 50 Spectre begun at a cost of 49500 platinum, 0 ore, 50 draftees and 0 wizards
    Training of 100 Spectre begun at a cost of 99000 platinum, 0 ore, 100 draftees and 0 wizards
    Training of 100 Spectre begun at a cost of 99000 platinum, 0 ore, 100 draftees and 0 wizards
    Training of 100 Spectre begun at a cost of 99000 platinum, 0 ore, 100 draftees and 0 wizards
    Training of 100 Spectre begun at a cost of 99000 platinum, 0 ore, 100 draftees and 0 wizards
    Training of 106 Spectre begun at a cost of 104940 platinum, 0 ore, 106 draftees and 0 wizards


    ====== SimulationHour: 62 ( 0630 PM day 3 ) ( 0630 PM day 3 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Harmony at a cost of 1247 mana.
    Your wizards successfully casts Gaia's Watch at a cost of 998 mana.
    Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 1247 mana.
    Training of 305 Phantom begun at a cost of 68625 platinum, 0 ore, 305 draftees and 0 wizards


    ====== SimulationHour: 63 ( 0730 PM day 3 ) ( 0730 PM day 3 ) ======
    Training of 151 Phantom begun at a cost of 33975 platinum, 0 ore, 151 draftees and 0 wizards
    Draftrate changed to 30%


    ====== SimulationHour: 67 ( 1130 PM day 3 ) ( 1130 PM day 3 ) ======
    Training of 592 Banshee begun at a cost of 133200 platinum, 0 ore, 592 draftees and 0 wizards


    ====== SimulationHour: 68 ( 1230 AM day 4 ) ( 1230 AM day 4 ) ======
    Training of 10 Spectre begun at a cost of 9900 platinum, 0 ore, 10 draftees and 0 wizards
    Training of 102 Banshee begun at a cost of 22950 platinum, 0 ore, 102 draftees and 0 wizards


    ====== SimulationHour: 69 ( 0130 AM day 4 ) ( 0130 AM day 4 ) ======
    Training of 10 Spectre begun at a cost of 9900 platinum, 0 ore, 10 draftees and 0 wizards
    Training of 5 Spectre begun at a cost of 4950 platinum, 0 ore, 5 draftees and 0 wizards
    Training of 79 Banshee begun at a cost of 17775 platinum, 0 ore, 79 draftees and 0 wizards


    ====== SimulationHour: 70 ( 0230 AM day 4 ) ( 0230 AM day 4 ) ======
    Training of 15 Spectre begun at a cost of 14850 platinum, 0 ore, 15 draftees and 0 wizards
    Training of 70 Banshee begun at a cost of 15750 platinum, 0 ore, 70 draftees and 0 wizards


    ====== SimulationHour: 71 ( 0330 AM day 4 ) ( 0330 AM day 4 ) ======
    Training of 20 Spectre begun at a cost of 19800 platinum, 0 ore, 20 draftees and 0 wizards
    Training of 51 Banshee begun at a cost of 11475 platinum, 0 ore, 51 draftees and 0 wizards
    You have been awarded with 28256 platinum.
    You have been awarded with 15 Swamp.
    Construction of 15 Home started at a cost of 15225 platinum and 2565 lumber.


    ====== SimulationHour: 72 ( 0430 AM day 4 ) ( 0430 AM day 4 ) ======
    Training of 20 Spectre begun at a cost of 19800 platinum, 0 ore, 20 draftees and 0 wizards
    Training of 5 Spectre begun at a cost of 4950 platinum, 0 ore, 5 draftees and 0 wizards
    Training of 5 Spectre begun at a cost of 4950 platinum, 0 ore, 5 draftees and 0 wizards
    Training of 5 Spectre begun at a cost of 4950 platinum, 0 ore, 5 draftees and 0 wizards
    Training of 5 Spectre begun at a cost of 4950 platinum, 0 ore, 5 draftees and 0 wizards
    Training of 4 Spectre begun at a cost of 3960 platinum, 0 ore, 4 draftees and 0 wizards
    Training of 18 Banshee begun at a cost of 4050 platinum, 0 ore, 18 draftees and 0 wizards


    ====== SimulationHour: 73 ( 0530 AM day 4 ) ( 0530 AM day 4 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Ares' Call at a cost of 1285 mana.
    Your wizards successfully casts Race Spell at a cost of 2570 mana.
    Draftrate changed to 50%
    krikke




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    		OOP Attker Goals
    replied on: 1/28/2004 1:19:47 PM
    hi

    where do you find such a sim? how do you do one?
    LinkBot





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