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Good Races -- Human/Nomad
Unit Offensive Strength Defensive Strength Special Ability Cost
Spearmen/Fighter: 3 0 - 275p, 25r
Archer/Crossbowman: 0 3 - 275p, 10r
Knight/Blademaster: 2 6 25% fewer casualties 950p, 85r
Cavalry/Valkyrie: 5 3 Returns 3 hours faster from battle 1200p, 80r
  • Human Food Production: +5%
  • Nomad Mana Production: +5%
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  • Home Land Type: Plain
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    Self-Spell for Human/Nomad Only
  • Crusade: Gives 10% attack strength bonus against all EVIL races, and allows you to kill Undead/Spirits.

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    Regis






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    Thank You Viruz!!!!
    posted on: 6/3/2003 9:00:08 PM

    I just simmed this for Wave 3 I'd prefer wave 6, but work will get in the way of the game if I try that. I wouldn't be able to log in and cast my spells @ hours 14 and 16. So I'll do something like this, which I'm pretty happy with if I do say so

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    The Dominion of SimulatedDominion
    Overview
    Ruler: default
    Race: Human
    Land: 500
    Peasants: 7,636
    Draftees: 744
    Employment: 100.00%
    Networth: 20,070
    Prestige: 250
    Resources
    Platinum: 297,078
    Food: 44,474
    Lumber: 14,201
    Mana: 4,646
    Ore: 11,923
    Gems: 0
    Boats: 0
    Military
    Morale: 100.00%
    Spearmen 0
    Archer 0
    Knight 600
    Cavalry 0
    Spies: 50
    Wizards: 50
    ArchMages: 10

    132 land coming in 3 hours OOP. I may end up making more Knights and waiting 3 more hours to go to 632 land. I'm undecided on if 4k defense (+ draftees)at that size is enough, but I don't think it is.


    DominionSimulation Started ( http://viruz.linuxgods.com/dominion )
    The Original DominionSimulator is made by viruz
    You have chosen to start your simulation at hour 1
    Your last hour in protection will be hour 72
    You started in wave: 3
    Your race is: Human
    You have 109500 platinum
    You have 0 ore
    You have 0 mana
    You have 15900 lumber
    You have 17000 food
    You have 1450 peasants
    The 1:st time is server time, the 2:nd time is your local time


    ====== SimulationHour: 1 ( 0230 AM day 1 ) ( 0230 AM day 1 ) ======
    Construction of 40 Alchemy, 12 Oremine, 14 Tower, 20 Diamondmine started at a cost of 60200 platinum and 7568 lumber.
    Rezoning begun at a cost of 12250 platinum. The change in land are as following: 49 Plains, -8 Mountains, -1 Swamp, -20 Forests, -20 Water
    Construction of 49 Alchemy started at a cost of 34300 platinum and 4312 lumber.
    Rezoning begun at a cost of 500 platinum. The change in land are as following: 2 Plains, -2 Swamp
    Construction of 2 Alchemy started at a cost of 1400 platinum and 176 lumber.
    You invested 500 gems (6000 points) into: 6000 Science,
    Draftrate changed to 20%
    You successfully released 10 Spearmen, 10 Archer, 10 Knight, 10 Cavalry, 10 Spies, 10 Wizards into draftees.


    ====== SimulationHour: 8 ( 0930 AM day 1 ) ( 0930 AM day 1 ) ======
    Rezoning begun at a cost of 5750 platinum. The change in land are as following: 23 Plains, -3 Swamp, -20 Hills
    Construction of 23 Alchemy started at a cost of 16100 platinum and 2024 lumber.
    You invested 10051 lumber (20102 points) into: 20102 Science,


    ====== SimulationHour: 13 ( 0230 PM day 1 ) ( 0230 PM day 1 ) ======
    Exploration for 34 Plains begun at a cost of 28900 platinum and 136 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 12%


    ====== SimulationHour: 14 ( 0330 PM day 1 ) ( 0330 PM day 1 ) ======
    You have been awarded with 15 Plains.
    Construction of 15 Alchemy started at a cost of 10500 platinum and 1320 lumber.
    Your wizards successfully casts Harmony at a cost of 662 mana.
    You invested 600 gems (7200 points) into: 7200 Science,


    ====== SimulationHour: 16 ( 0530 PM day 1 ) ( 0530 PM day 1 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 662 mana.
    You invested 600 gems (7200 points) into: 7200 Science,


    ====== SimulationHour: 22 ( 1130 PM day 1 ) ( 1130 PM day 1 ) ======
    You have been awarded with 9792 platinum.


    ====== SimulationHour: 24 ( 0130 AM day 2 ) ( 0130 AM day 2 ) ======
    Exploration for 100 Plains, 5 Caverns begun at a cost of 93975 platinum and 420 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 35%
    You invested 2400 gems (28800 points) into: 28800 Science,


    ====== SimulationHour: 25 ( 0230 AM day 2 ) ( 0230 AM day 2 ) ======
    Construction of 34 Alchemy started at a cost of 23800 platinum and 2992 lumber.


    ====== SimulationHour: 26 ( 0330 AM day 2 ) ( 0330 AM day 2 ) ======
    You invested 600 gems (7200 points) into: 7200 Keep,
    You invested 16552 lumber (33104 points) into: 33104 Keep,
    Your wizards successfully casts Harmony at a cost of 747 mana.


    ====== SimulationHour: 28 ( 0530 AM day 2 ) ( 0530 AM day 2 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 747 mana.
    You invested 600 gems (7200 points) into: 7200 Keep,


    ====== SimulationHour: 35 ( 1230 PM day 2 ) ( 1230 PM day 2 ) ======
    Exploration for 36 Plains, 30 Hills begun at a cost of 65802 platinum and 264 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 22%
    You invested 2100 gems (25200 points) into: 25200 Keep,


    ====== SimulationHour: 36 ( 0130 PM day 2 ) ( 0130 PM day 2 ) ======
    You have been awarded with 15 Plains.
    Construction of 105 Smithy, 5 Diamondmine started at a cost of 79090 platinum and 10230 lumber.
    Construction of 3 Home, 2 Alchemy, 5 Farm started at a cost of 7190 platinum and 930 lumber.


    ====== SimulationHour: 38 ( 0330 PM day 2 ) ( 0330 PM day 2 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Harmony at a cost of 1047 mana.


    ====== SimulationHour: 40 ( 0530 PM day 2 ) ( 0530 PM day 2 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 1047 mana.
    You invested 1500 gems (18000 points) into: 18000 Keep,


    ====== SimulationHour: 46 ( 1130 PM day 2 ) ( 1130 PM day 2 ) ======
    You have been awarded with 22136 platinum.
    You invested 1800 gems (21600 points) into: 21600 Science,


    ====== SimulationHour: 47 ( 1230 AM day 3 ) ( 1230 AM day 3 ) ======
    Construction of 36 Home, 30 Barrack started at a cost of 50292 platinum and 6864 lumber.
    You have been awarded with 15 Plains.
    Construction of 11 Home, 4 Alchemy started at a cost of 11430 platinum and 1560 lumber.
    You invested 5367 lumber (10734 points) into: 10734 Science,
    You invested 300 gems (3600 points) into: 3600 Science,


    ====== SimulationHour: 50 ( 0330 AM day 3 ) ( 0330 AM day 3 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Harmony at a cost of 1250 mana.


    ====== SimulationHour: 52 ( 0530 AM day 3 ) ( 0530 AM day 3 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 1250 mana.
    You invested 1875 gems (22500 points) into: 22500 Science,


    ====== SimulationHour: 61 ( 0230 PM day 3 ) ( 0230 PM day 3 ) ======
    You invested 3375 gems (40500 points) into: 40500 Science,
    Training of 50 Spies, 50 Wizards begun at a cost of 50000 platinum, 0 ore, 100 draftees and 0 wizards
    Training of 500 Knight begun at a cost of 375500 platinum, 33500 ore, 500 draftees and 0 wizards
    16406 Lumber was exchanged for 8203 Ore.
    Training of 100 Knight begun at a cost of 75100 platinum, 6700 ore, 100 draftees and 0 wizards
    Draftrate changed to 16%


    ====== SimulationHour: 62 ( 0330 PM day 3 ) ( 0330 PM day 3 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Harmony at a cost of 1250 mana.
    Your wizards successfully casts Gaia's Watch at a cost of 1000 mana.


    ====== SimulationHour: 64 ( 0530 PM day 3 ) ( 0530 PM day 3 ) ======
    Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 1250 mana.
    You have been awarded with 29892 platinum.
    Exploration for 49 Plains, 3 Mountains, 15 Swamp, 50 Caverns begun at a cost of 230139 platinum and 702 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 39%
    You invested 1125 gems (13500 points) into: 13500 Keep,


    ====== SimulationHour: 73 ( 0230 AM day 4 ) ( 0230 AM day 4 ) ======
    You invested 3375 gems (40500 points) into: 40500 Keep,
    Your wizards successfully casts Ares' Call at a cost of 1250 mana.
    Draftrate changed to 20%
    jonnyb

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    This message was updated on 6/5/2003 3:14:10 PM by jonnyb

    Thank You Viruz!!!!
    replied on: 6/5/2003 3:08:54 PM

    i guess 4k def is ok for the start...maybe i would add some archers for cheap defence and faster exploring...
    Regis




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    This message was updated on 6/5/2003 7:47:47 PM by Regis

    Thank You Viruz!!!!
    replied on: 6/5/2003 7:15:14 PM

    I have two reasons why I went with Knights instead of Archers. First, the Knights are *very* cheap compared to all other elite defensive units. The costs are 532k for Knights and 308k for Archers (with 20% Smithies). That means a difference of 224k plat. However, the Archers mean I have 600 less draftees that I can use for exploring. The plat is not what is going to limit my ability to explore much longer.

    The second reason is efficiency. Those 600 Archers could be peasants. 600 employed peasants over 45 days (the rest of the round) make ~2 million plat (Only counting Midas' Touch). Quite a trade off isn't it? 200k now for ~2 million over the course of the round. Even if you release your troops relatively early on in the round you still lose out because you didn't have those 600 peasants for however long you waited PLUS you have to re-train them as Knights.

    I think I'll stick with Knights and the 2 million extra plat.

    -Regis

    P.S. I just did the math and it takes 125 hours 5 1/4 days) for the 224k plat to be made up using all elites. Obviously it would take much longer for other races because Humans have a very cheap defense elite that is 2x as strong as its defense spec. Halflings, for example, would take 4 weeks; Which almost begs the question-Why use MTs at all except for keeping 1-2 SPA?
    jonnyb

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    This message was updated on 6/5/2003 9:21:32 PM by jonnyb

    Thank You Viruz!!!!
    replied on: 6/5/2003 9:12:44 PM

    oki..calculated my own, guess youre right...
    but be carefull...The calculation with the 2 mill. plat. doesnt work like you say...
    Say you build some knights, but also archers and you release the archers after some days (just to have more plat. to explore in the first 1-2 days after protection)
    Regis




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    Thank You Viruz!!!!
    replied on: 6/5/2003 9:50:24 PM

    It depends on what you use the extra plat on and if you are limited by draftees. the difference won't be 2 million but I'll guarantee it will be 1 million or more. Yes, you can get more land with that saved plat which stretches the difference a little *but* you'll need more barracks, which means less alchs and an even lower plat per hour difference (if you continue using specs).

    The math doesn't decieve. In the long run Elites are far better than specs. But you knew that already.

    -Regis
    krikke




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    This message was updated on 1/28/2004 11:36:39 AM by krikke

    Thank You Viruz!!!!
    replied on: 1/28/2004 11:34:24 AM

    i've got an important question
    where do you find those simulators, and how do they work, and what are those waves that everyone 's speaking of?

    i already saw those excel pages, but can't see what my networth will be when OOP

    can someone plz give me an url, or where to look?
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