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| Traex Quote | Reply | | NW Formula posted on: 6/4/2003 2:22:59 PM What are the NW formulas for woodie's mystics n druids, gnome's rockas n juggs, icekin's frostmages n ice elementals, and DE's adepts? Which ones are same with normal elite unit formula? Thanks  |
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Tim_Myth
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replied on: 6/4/2003 3:59:34 PM The only two "fixed" networths I know off hand are for Mystics and Druids. Mystics are 10.2 and Druids are 9.75. I'll figure out today what the other networths are. |
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mickles
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replied on: 6/4/2003 8:20:33 PM hmm gnome units are fixed as well. However I dont know what they are... |
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mickles
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replied on: 6/4/2003 8:20:56 PM all other units adhere to the normal nw formula afaik. |
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Tim_Myth
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replied on: 6/5/2003 8:21:03 AM The WE networth adhere's to the normal formula too, if you use 33.333333% forest for your calcs. My theory (that I still haven't tested) is that Ross did one of two things. He either used 33.33333% for all of them (except juggas of course) or he used one third their max modifier (ie, 33.333% for WE but maybe only 26.66666% for Sylvan since they have the 80% cap). |
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Tim_Myth
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replied on: 6/5/2003 9:31:51 AM I obtained the following results by releasing the initial ten troops, so the degreee of accuracy is not great (only 1 decimal place). Dryads: 8.4 (33.333333% Forest) Rockapults: 11? 11.11? 11.2? 11.22? (I couldn't get a real good fix on it with only ten units. Maybe this is where the networth of gnomes is getting screwed up...) Juggs: 10.3 (10.35 if you use their base 5/3 stat in the regular formula) Adepts: 7.6! (0% Wizard Guilds!) Frostmages: 9.6? 9.8? Ice Elementals: 8.2 |
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Traex
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replied on: 6/5/2003 1:14:57 PM hmm so ross uses 33.333% forests for Woodie and Sylvans... well we'll see whether it's accurate or not later Based on ur NW post: Adepts n Ice Elementals follow the normal NW formula Juggs are based on 5/3 Rockas n Frostmages are still unknown :p Btw thanks for ur infos
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Tim_Myth
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replied on: 6/5/2003 1:25:55 PM Not a problem. I needed the info for the target sewarching db I'm going to need later. If you find better values for Rockas and Frosties, let me know, please? |
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Traex
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replied on: 6/6/2003 12:23:23 AM ok sure 
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Tim_Myth
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replied on: 6/19/2003 8:17:09 AM I realized I should probably post all these values for everyone. Thought I had done it once already, but it must be my old age kicking in again. Knights: 11.7 Cavalry: 10.35 Blademasters: 11.7 Valkyries: 10.35 Clerics: 8.55 Warriors: 11.7 Mystics: 7.2 Druids: 6.75 Staff Masters: 10.35 Master Thieves: 8.1 Kraken: 8.1 Leviathans: 11 Dryads: 8.4 Centaurs: 9.9 Rockapults: 11.2 Juggernauts: 10.35 Orcs: 10.35 Wolf Riders: 11.7 Bashers: 9.9 Smashers: 14.15 Adepts: 7.65 Spirit Warriors: 9.9 Progeny: 8.1 Vampires: 8.55 Ghosts: 8.1 Spectres: 8.55 Werewolves: 8.55 Garous: 10.8 Beasts: 9 Overlords: 9.9 Chameleons: 9 Lizardmen: 11.7 Frostmages: 9.7 Ice Elementals: 8.2 Phoenix: 7.2 Salamanders: 10.35 |
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mickles
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replied on: 6/19/2003 2:47:45 PM some of those units vary with land/building percentages, but everything looks ok there
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Tim_Myth
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replied on: 6/19/2003 5:56:04 PM Yes, but several rounds ago, Ross assigned those units a fixed amount of networth. That's what the whole converstaion had been about up to this point.
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mickles
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replied on: 6/20/2003 1:40:55 AM adepts arent fixed. Elementals arent fixed, dryads arent fixed. Dunno about frostmages but I think they arent either. Its only gnome and WE units. |
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Tim_Myth
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replied on: 6/20/2003 8:23:32 AM I'm trying to find somewhere that saved the changes for rounds 15 and 16, since I know it was in one of those rounds that this changed. Looking at some of the old posts at the EzBoards site, I think every unit that had a variable strangth got a fixed networth. Although you could be right about adepts because when I did my testing, they had a NW value as if I had no WG's (which I didn't). I'm going to investigate some more... |
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Traex
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replied on: 6/20/2003 1:13:49 PM I've found out that the NW of Rockapult is at ~11.1 not 11.2 like u said, TimMyth just a correction.. |
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Tim_Myth
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replied on: 6/20/2003 5:21:28 PM quote: Yeah, I never did get a good value. It always seemed to vary between 11 and 11.22. |
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