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| J-Roc[LoC] Quote | Reply | | Merf OOP attker Sim posted on: 6/4/2003 6:47:55 PM comments? Wave 6. 5343 modded OP 2703 modded DP with troops out. 50 spies/20AMs for ops getting. im not sure i have much else to say. build is alch heavy with no smithies. Major Q: using levis for def and mermen/kraken (almost all mers) for attk. after hour 63 when im done training for what ill have my first hour out, should i split the rest of the hours between levis and mermen or levis and sirens? im pretty sure it should be levis/mermen in order to get my def up. whats a good dp to have when the conquered land comes in (assuming i conquer however much i should conquer with 5400 OP)? ********************** The Dominion of SimulatedDominion Overview Ruler: default Race: Merfolk Land: 500 Peasants: 5,797 Draftees: 59 Employment: 100.00% Networth: 25,586 Prestige: 250 Resources Platinum: 32,237 Food: 45,810 Lumber: 34,959 Mana: 10,384 Military Morale: 100.00% Mermen 1,657 Sirens 43 Kraken 80 Leviathan 333 Spies: 50 ArchMages: 20 ********************** Production advisor Production /hr Platinum: 31,974 Food: 2,664 Lumber: 1,050 Mana: 625 Consumption /hr Food eaten: 2,131 Food decayed: 458 Lumber rotted: 350 Mana drain: 208 Net change /hr Food: 75 Lumber: 700 Mana: 417 ************************** Units in training and home: Unit Hours until trained Home (Training) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Mermen: - - - - - - 100 - - - - - 1,657 (100) Sirens: - - - 120 - - 101 60 - - - - 43 (281) Kraken: - - - - - - - - - - - - 80 (0) Leviathan: - - - - - 67 - - - 27 10 - 333 (104) Spies: - - - - - - - - - - - - 50 (0) Archmages: - - - - - - - - - - - - 20 (0) **************************** Home: 40 8.00% Alchemy: 335 67.00% Farm: 40 8.00% Tower: 25 5.00% Lumberyard: 30 6.00% Barrack: 15 3.00% Incoming Buildings: 15 3.00% (barracks) ********************** all feedback much appreciated! and the log if it matters: ************************** DominionSimulation Started ( http://viruz.linuxgods.com/dominion ) The Original DominionSimulator is made by viruz You have chosen to start your simulation at hour 0 Your last hour in protection will be hour 71 You started in wave: 6 Your race is: Merfolk You have 123750 platinum You have 0 ore You have 0 mana You have 17250 lumber You have 20000 food You have 1825 peasants The 1:st time is server time, the 2:nd time is your local time ====== SimulationHour: 0 ( 0530 AM day 1 ) ( 0530 AM day 1 ) ====== Exploration for 25 Plains begun at a cost of 21250 platinum and 100 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 9% Construction of 40 Alchemy, 20 Tower started at a cost of 42000 platinum and 5280 lumber. Rezoning begun at a cost of 10000 platinum. The change in land are as following: 40 Plains, -20 Hills, -20 Water Construction of 40 Alchemy started at a cost of 28000 platinum and 3520 lumber. Rezoning begun at a cost of 5000 platinum. The change in land are as following: 20 Plains, -20 Mountains Construction of 20 Alchemy started at a cost of 14000 platinum and 1760 lumber. Rezoning begun at a cost of 1250 platinum. The change in land are as following: 5 Plains, -5 Caverns Construction of 3 Alchemy started at a cost of 2100 platinum and 264 lumber. Draftrate changed to 50% You invested 500 gems (6000 points) into: 6000 Science, ====== SimulationHour: 1 ( 0630 AM day 1 ) ( 0630 AM day 1 ) ====== Exploration for 4 Plains begun at a cost of 3400 platinum and 16 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 2% ====== SimulationHour: 2 ( 0730 AM day 1 ) ( 0730 AM day 1 ) ====== Exploration for 5 Plains begun at a cost of 4250 platinum and 20 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 2% ====== SimulationHour: 3 ( 0830 AM day 1 ) ( 0830 AM day 1 ) ====== Construction of 2 Alchemy started at a cost of 1400 platinum and 176 lumber. Rezoning begun at a cost of 2750 platinum. The change in land are as following: 11 Plains, -11 Caverns ====== SimulationHour: 4 ( 0930 AM day 1 ) ( 0930 AM day 1 ) ====== Construction of 5 Alchemy started at a cost of 3500 platinum and 440 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 5 ( 1030 AM day 1 ) ( 1030 AM day 1 ) ====== Construction of 6 Alchemy started at a cost of 4200 platinum and 528 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 6 ( 1130 AM day 1 ) ( 1130 AM day 1 ) ====== Rezoning begun at a cost of 1000 platinum. The change in land are as following: 4 Plains, -4 Caverns Construction of 4 Alchemy started at a cost of 2800 platinum and 352 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 7 ( 1230 PM day 1 ) ( 1230 PM day 1 ) ====== Rezoning begun at a cost of 3750 platinum. The change in land are as following: 15 Plains, -15 Forests ====== SimulationHour: 8 ( 0130 PM day 1 ) ( 0130 PM day 1 ) ====== Construction of 6 Alchemy started at a cost of 4200 platinum and 528 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 9 ( 0230 PM day 1 ) ( 0230 PM day 1 ) ====== Construction of 5 Alchemy started at a cost of 3500 platinum and 440 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 10 ( 0330 PM day 1 ) ( 0330 PM day 1 ) ====== Construction of 4 Alchemy started at a cost of 2800 platinum and 352 lumber. You have been awarded with 15 Water. Rezoning begun at a cost of 1554 platinum. The change in land are as following: 6 Plains, -6 Water ====== SimulationHour: 11 ( 0430 PM day 1 ) ( 0430 PM day 1 ) ====== Construction of 5 Alchemy started at a cost of 3500 platinum and 440 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 12 ( 0530 PM day 1 ) ( 0530 PM day 1 ) ====== Construction of 16 Alchemy started at a cost of 11200 platinum and 1408 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 13 ( 0630 PM day 1 ) ( 0630 PM day 1 ) ====== Construction of 14 Alchemy started at a cost of 9800 platinum and 1232 lumber. Your wizards successfully casts Harmony at a cost of 735 mana. Construction of 1 Lumberyard started at a cost of 700 platinum and 88 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 14 ( 0730 PM day 1 ) ( 0730 PM day 1 ) ====== Construction of 5 Alchemy, 4 Lumberyard started at a cost of 6300 platinum and 792 lumber. Rezoning begun at a cost of 2511 platinum. The change in land are as following: 9 Plains, -9 Water Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 747 mana. Construction of 3 Alchemy started at a cost of 2100 platinum and 264 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 15 ( 0830 PM day 1 ) ( 0830 PM day 1 ) ====== Construction of 6 Alchemy started at a cost of 4200 platinum and 528 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 16 ( 0930 PM day 1 ) ( 0930 PM day 1 ) ====== Exploration for 21 Plains begun at a cost of 20937 platinum and 84 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 7% ====== SimulationHour: 18 ( 1130 PM day 1 ) ( 1130 PM day 1 ) ====== You have been awarded with 11140 platinum. Exploration for 38 Plains begun at a cost of 37886 platinum and 152 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 13% ====== SimulationHour: 20 ( 0130 AM day 2 ) ( 0130 AM day 2 ) ====== Exploration for 29 Plains begun at a cost of 28913 platinum and 116 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 10% ====== SimulationHour: 22 ( 0330 AM day 2 ) ( 0330 AM day 2 ) ====== Exploration for 25 Plains, 5 Swamp begun at a cost of 29910 platinum and 120 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 10% ====== SimulationHour: 24 ( 0530 AM day 2 ) ( 0530 AM day 2 ) ====== Exploration for 17 Plains begun at a cost of 16949 platinum and 68 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 6% ====== SimulationHour: 25 ( 0630 AM day 2 ) ( 0630 AM day 2 ) ====== Your wizards successfully casts Harmony at a cost of 747 mana. Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 747 mana. Exploration for 8 Plains begun at a cost of 7976 platinum and 32 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 3% ====== SimulationHour: 26 ( 0730 AM day 2 ) ( 0730 AM day 2 ) ====== Exploration for 9 Plains begun at a cost of 8973 platinum and 36 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 3% ====== SimulationHour: 27 ( 0830 AM day 2 ) ( 0830 AM day 2 ) ====== Exploration for 4 Plains begun at a cost of 3988 platinum and 16 draftees. Your orders for exploration disheartens the military, and morale drops 2% You have been awarded with 15 Water. Construction of 15 Home started at a cost of 11430 platinum and 1560 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 28 ( 0930 AM day 2 ) ( 0930 AM day 2 ) ====== Construction of 21 Alchemy started at a cost of 16002 platinum and 2184 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 30 ( 1130 AM day 2 ) ( 1130 AM day 2 ) ====== Construction of 38 Alchemy started at a cost of 28956 platinum and 3952 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 32 ( 0130 PM day 2 ) ( 0130 PM day 2 ) ====== Construction of 29 Alchemy started at a cost of 22098 platinum and 3016 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 34 ( 0330 PM day 2 ) ( 0330 PM day 2 ) ====== Construction of 25 Alchemy, 5 Tower started at a cost of 22860 platinum and 3120 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 36 ( 0530 PM day 2 ) ( 0530 PM day 2 ) ====== Construction of 17 Alchemy started at a cost of 12954 platinum and 1768 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 37 ( 0630 PM day 2 ) ( 0630 PM day 2 ) ====== Your wizards successfully casts Harmony at a cost of 1142 mana. Your wizards successfully casts Gaia's Watch at a cost of 914 mana. Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 1142 mana. Construction of 8 Farm started at a cost of 6096 platinum and 832 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 38 ( 0730 PM day 2 ) ( 0730 PM day 2 ) ====== Construction of 7 Alchemy, 2 Farm started at a cost of 6858 platinum and 936 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 39 ( 0830 PM day 2 ) ( 0830 PM day 2 ) ====== Construction of 4 Alchemy started at a cost of 3124 platinum and 436 lumber. ====== SimulationHour: 42 ( 1130 PM day 2 ) ( 1130 PM day 2 ) ====== You have been awarded with 25144 platinum. ====== SimulationHour: 43 ( 1230 AM day 3 ) ( 1230 AM day 3 ) ====== You have been awarded with 15 Water. Rezoning begun at a cost of 5865 platinum. The change in land are as following: 15 Hills, -15 Water Construction of 15 Barrack started at a cost of 12840 platinum and 1935 lumber. Training of 530 Mermen begun at a cost of 145750 platinum, 0 ore, 530 draftees and 0 wizards ====== SimulationHour: 49 ( 0630 AM day 3 ) ( 0630 AM day 3 ) ====== Your wizards successfully casts Gaia's Watch at a cost of 970 mana. Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 1212 mana. Your wizards successfully casts Harmony at a cost of 1212 mana. ====== SimulationHour: 60 ( 0530 PM day 3 ) ( 0530 PM day 3 ) ====== Your wizards successfully casts Gaia's Watch at a cost of 970 mana. Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 1212 mana. Training of 40 Spies, 10 Archmages begun at a cost of 30000 platinum, 0 ore, 40 draftees and 10 wizards Training of 323 Leviathan begun at a cost of 468350 platinum, 0 ore, 323 draftees and 0 wizards Training of 10 Kraken begun at a cost of 6500 platinum, 0 ore, 10 draftees and 0 wizards Training of 540 Mermen begun at a cost of 148500 platinum, 0 ore, 540 draftees and 0 wizards You have been awarded with 25176 platinum. Training of 60 Kraken begun at a cost of 39000 platinum, 0 ore, 60 draftees and 0 wizards ====== SimulationHour: 61 ( 0630 PM day 3 ) ( 0630 PM day 3 ) ====== Training of 372 Mermen begun at a cost of 102300 platinum, 0 ore, 372 draftees and 0 wizards ====== SimulationHour: 62 ( 0730 PM day 3 ) ( 0730 PM day 3 ) ====== Training of 121 Mermen begun at a cost of 33275 platinum, 0 ore, 121 draftees and 0 wizards ====== SimulationHour: 63 ( 0830 PM day 3 ) ( 0830 PM day 3 ) ====== Training of 33 Sirens begun at a cost of 9900 platinum, 0 ore, 33 draftees and 0 wizards Training of 84 Mermen begun at a cost of 23100 platinum, 0 ore, 84 draftees and 0 wizards ====== SimulationHour: 66 ( 1130 PM day 3 ) ( 1130 PM day 3 ) ====== Training of 20 Leviathan begun at a cost of 29000 platinum, 0 ore, 20 draftees and 0 wizards Training of 10 Leviathan begun at a cost of 14500 platinum, 0 ore, 10 draftees and 0 wizards Training of 10 Leviathan begun at a cost of 14500 platinum, 0 ore, 10 draftees and 0 wizards Training of 27 Leviathan begun at a cost of 39150 platinum, 0 ore, 27 draftees and 0 wizards ====== SimulationHour: 67 ( 1230 AM day 4 ) ( 1230 AM day 4 ) ====== You have been awarded with 15 Water. You have been awarded with 23468 platinum. Rezoning begun at a cost of 6000 platinum. The change in land are as following: 15 Hills, -15 Water Construction of 15 Barrack started at a cost of 14970 platinum and 2490 lumber. Training of 120 Sirens begun at a cost of 36000 platinum, 0 ore, 120 draftees and 0 wizards ====== SimulationHour: 70 ( 0330 AM day 4 ) ( 0330 AM day 4 ) ====== Training of 17 Leviathan begun at a cost of 24650 platinum, 0 ore, 17 draftees and 0 wizards Training of 100 Mermen begun at a cost of 27500 platinum, 0 ore, 100 draftees and 0 wizards Training of 10 Leviathan begun at a cost of 14500 platinum, 0 ore, 10 draftees and 0 wizards Training of 101 Sirens begun at a cost of 30300 platinum, 0 ore, 101 draftees and 0 wizards ====== SimulationHour: 71 ( 0430 AM day 4 ) ( 0430 AM day 4 ) ====== Training of 5 Leviathan begun at a cost of 7250 platinum, 0 ore, 5 draftees and 0 wizards Training of 5 Leviathan begun at a cost of 7250 platinum, 0 ore, 5 draftees and 0 wizards Training of 60 Sirens begun at a cost of 18000 platinum, 0 ore, 60 draftees and 0 wizards ====== SimulationHour: 72 ( 0530 AM day 4 ) ( 0530 AM day 4 ) ====== Your wizards successfully casts Ares' Call at a cost of 1250 mana. Your wizards successfully casts Gaia's Watch at a cost of 1000 mana. Your wizards successfully casts Midas Touch at a cost of 1250 mana. |
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Tim_Myth
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replied on: 6/5/2003 10:31:10 AM I'm thinking that 4000 to 4500 DP would suffice 12 hours out. If you can buy enough Leviathans in that time to get up to that DP, go Levi's and mermen. My personal opinion would be to go Levi's and sirens with a wave 6 start, since you're troops will still be out while the previous wave's attackers are coming back. Another option would be to go with siren's and kraken if you're looking to have lots of elites as early as possible. I don't know how many boats they sink when attacking, but by hour 84 the average person has fewer than 100 boats. You may be able to be a thorn in some attacker's side by limiting his offense. That's would certainly bring me a chuckle. 
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J-Roc[LoC]
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replied on: 6/5/2003 1:27:46 PM yea, i have no idea how effective boatsinking is either. ive actually simmed it again with some mickles suggestions using more smithies/kraken and made 5700 OP / 2900DP with troops out. my 12hr DP recs have ranged from 4k - 6k. |
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mickles
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replied on: 6/5/2003 8:34:55 PM You will want 6-10k dp if you are in the top 20 for land 12 hrs out. >>are you referring to my posts in the domstrat boards? You the same guy? |
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J-Roc[LoC]
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replied on: 6/5/2003 9:30:12 PM aye. i realized that most people dont have their Board names the same as Dom names, so that they dont know wut youre doing, only i realized it a little late. im still a nooblet  tho now im ready to kick some rear and take some names oop. DragoonKain is my war3 smurf name for when we're messing around in customs. he's the tuffest FF character ever. |
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mickles
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replied on: 6/5/2003 9:32:33 PM gotta congratulate you though. That was a fairly 1337 sim you got on the domstrat boards. Im not used to seeing something that good from someone I dont know... |
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J-Roc[LoC]
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replied on: 6/5/2003 9:41:34 PM i go all out with games i really like. last round was my first (finished 3300 acre sylvan in realm 449, 5-6 day late start). one of our guys has played for a few rounds and so he got some of us to try it out. (war3 clan) i love it and so ive spent most of the last half of the round lurking on the Dom forums/here/and at domstrat trying to pick up what i can. it seems, as long as you put in some effort the top players have no problem giving feedback or lending a hand, which is pretty cool. i think its all about informatin when youre new, ask as many questions as you can and get opinions from as many people as you can. and then things start making more sense with time. thx man, owe ya for a lot of the advice. hopefully, youll know me better after this round personal goal is top 20 in race for land.
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mickles
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Merf OOP attker Sim
replied on: 6/5/2003 10:24:49 PM thats quite doable. Good luck! |
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Zzwish
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Merf OOP attker Sim
replied on: 6/8/2003 3:52:44 PM The Dominion of SimulatedDominion Overview Ruler: default Race: Merfolk Land: 560 Peasants: 6,849 Draftees: 69 Employment: 100.00% Networth: 27,718 Prestige: 250 Resources Platinum: 26,409 Food: 34,313 Lumber: 6,761 Mana: 3,314 Ore: 0 Gems: 0 Boats: 0 Military Morale: 100.00% Mermen 250 Sirens 0 Kraken 809 Leviathan 490 Spies: 60 Wizards: 50 ArchMages: 10 I will go merf attacker this round too and this is what my dom hopefully will look like OOP. 4k OP at 3,7k def with 560 acres. The reason for the high def is that I will not be able to build def in hours 66-70 because I need to sleep (if I can get some ;-)), and the fact that my high smithies/medium alchs strat will keep my income low untill I can get some more barracks in. Plat/h at OOP is not more then 26k+. This is also wave 6. |
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Zzwish
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replied on: 6/8/2003 4:04:31 PM On second thought I might consider going with a little bit less land and a bit more OP... Need to do some final tweaking as there still is more than 12 hour to go =) Comments are appreciated though
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J-Roc[LoC]
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replied on: 6/8/2003 5:13:45 PM iim currently running 528 land oop. the best ive done s ofar is: 5790 mod op 2950 mod dp with 6600 mod dp 12 hours to (8800 with kraks home) but im logging every hour there. similar build to urs i bet. ~200 alchs and ~200 smithies. levs for def with kraken/mermen mix about 2:1 for op. |
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Zzwish
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replied on: 6/8/2003 6:50:50 PM Allmost 6k OP on that land is really good, especially if you can get 6,6k def 12 h OOP. When it comes to buildstrat I'm having more smithies and less alchs than you. It allows me to builld more cost-efficiently, but at the expense of plat/h until I can get more rax in.. As you see I run allmost exclusively elites OOP. |
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J-Roc[LoC]
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replied on: 6/8/2003 9:34:54 PM i build all my initial land t osmithies (except the towers) and the nthe first 34 i explore and day 1 bonus. rest to smithy. 2.5 hours til start. i cant wait. |
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J-Roc[LoC]
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replied on: 6/8/2003 9:35:25 PM that should be initial/first 34 to alch lol |
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Zzwish
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replied on: 6/9/2003 10:17:52 AM It's dependant on your military build ofcourse, but smithies are more efficient OOP than alchs if you go high elites. Are you planning on razing some of your alchs for barracks OOP? |
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J-Roc[LoC]
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replied on: 6/9/2003 12:17:25 PM i havent gotten that far ahead yet. atm im thinking of letting them jsut sit there and using the incoming land to build to a small number of DMs, barracks, and soemthing else. im still workgin with tims calculator to find wut the best build to go for is. this is only my 2nd round. s oremember to take everything i say with a grain of salt. i got a lot of help on the sim tho by posting it around and getting feedback from good players tho. ill get back to ya in a day or 2 with wut i find after more intensive research with tim's spreadsheet |
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