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Tim_Myth Moderator	NW Formula replied on: 6/20/2003 5:21:28 PM quote: Rockapults: 11? 11.11? 11.2? 11.22? (I couldn't get a real good fix on it with only ten units. Maybe this is where the networth of gnomes is getting screwed up...) Yeah, I never did get a good value. It always seemed to vary between 11 and 11.22.
Traex	NW Formula replied on: 6/20/2003 1:13:49 PM I've found out that the NW of Rockapult is at ~11.1 not 11.2 like u said, TimMyth just a correction..
Tim_Myth Moderator	NW Formula replied on: 6/20/2003 8:23:32 AM I'm trying to find somewhere that saved the changes for rounds 15 and 16, since I know it was in one of those rounds that this changed. Looking at some of the old posts at the EzBoards site, I think every unit that had a variable strangth got a fixed networth. Although you could be right about adepts because when I did my testing, they had a NW value as if I had no WG's (which I didn't). I'm going to investigate some more...
mickles mIRC Representative	NW Formula replied on: 6/20/2003 1:40:55 AM adepts arent fixed. Elementals arent fixed, dryads arent fixed. Dunno about frostmages but I think they arent either. Its only gnome and WE units.
Tim_Myth Moderator	NW Formula replied on: 6/19/2003 5:56:04 PM Yes, but several rounds ago, Ross assigned those units a fixed amount of networth. That's what the whole converstaion had been about up to this point.
mickles mIRC Representative	NW Formula replied on: 6/19/2003 2:47:45 PM some of those units vary with land/building percentages, but everything looks ok there
Tim_Myth Moderator	NW Formula replied on: 6/19/2003 8:17:09 AM I realized I should probably post all these values for everyone. Thought I had done it once already, but it must be my old age kicking in again. Knights: 11.7 Cavalry: 10.35 Blademasters: 11.7 Valkyries: 10.35 Clerics: 8.55 Warriors: 11.7 Mystics: 7.2 Druids: 6.75 Staff Masters: 10.35 Master Thieves: 8.1 Kraken: 8.1 Leviathans: 11 Dryads: 8.4 Centaurs: 9.9 Rockapults: 11.2 Juggernauts: 10.35 Orcs: 10.35 Wolf Riders: 11.7 Bashers: 9.9 Smashers: 14.15 Adepts: 7.65 Spirit Warriors: 9.9 Progeny: 8.1 Vampires: 8.55 Ghosts: 8.1 Spectres: 8.55 Werewolves: 8.55 Garous: 10.8 Beasts: 9 Overlords: 9.9 Chameleons: 9 Lizardmen: 11.7 Frostmages: 9.7 Ice Elementals: 8.2 Phoenix: 7.2 Salamanders: 10.35
Traex	NW Formula replied on: 6/6/2003 12:23:23 AM ok sure
Tim_Myth Moderator	NW Formula replied on: 6/5/2003 1:25:55 PM Not a problem. I needed the info for the target sewarching db I'm going to need later. If you find better values for Rockas and Frosties, let me know, please?
Traex	NW Formula replied on: 6/5/2003 1:14:57 PM hmm so ross uses 33.333% forests for Woodie and Sylvans... well we'll see whether it's accurate or not later Based on ur NW post: Adepts n Ice Elementals follow the normal NW formula Juggs are based on 5/3 Rockas n Frostmages are still unknown :p Btw thanks for ur infos
Tim_Myth Moderator	NW Formula replied on: 6/5/2003 9:31:51 AM I obtained the following results by releasing the initial ten troops, so the degreee of accuracy is not great (only 1 decimal place). Dryads: 8.4 (33.333333% Forest) Rockapults: 11? 11.11? 11.2? 11.22? (I couldn't get a real good fix on it with only ten units. Maybe this is where the networth of gnomes is getting screwed up...) Juggs: 10.3 (10.35 if you use their base 5/3 stat in the regular formula) Adepts: 7.6! (0% Wizard Guilds!) Frostmages: 9.6? 9.8? Ice Elementals: 8.2
Tim_Myth Moderator	NW Formula replied on: 6/5/2003 8:21:03 AM The WE networth adhere's to the normal formula too, if you use 33.333333% forest for your calcs. My theory (that I still haven't tested) is that Ross did one of two things. He either used 33.33333% for all of them (except juggas of course) or he used one third their max modifier (ie, 33.333% for WE but maybe only 26.66666% for Sylvan since they have the 80% cap).
mickles mIRC Representative	NW Formula replied on: 6/4/2003 8:20:56 PM all other units adhere to the normal nw formula afaik.
mickles mIRC Representative	NW Formula replied on: 6/4/2003 8:20:33 PM hmm gnome units are fixed as well. However I dont know what they are...
Tim_Myth Moderator	NW Formula replied on: 6/4/2003 3:59:34 PM The only two "fixed" networths I know off hand are for Mystics and Druids. Mystics are 10.2 and Druids are 9.75. I'll figure out today what the other networths are.

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