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racheymaus old hand Rank: Chinny	Frankenstein's mentor posted on: 6/13/2003 8:37:35 AM James Whale: not the bearded, big mouthed loon, but the celebrated director of classics like Bride of Frankenstein, he was a product of the Greater Birmingham area. Didn't notice Sir Ian McKellen doing a Brummie accent when he played him in Gods and Monsters, maybe we could start a petition to have this redubbed? And another thing, celluloid itself was invented in this fair city, so it's about time the world got down on its collective knees and worshipped. There'd be no culture without us, yet still they mock!
falsedog Rank: Jasper	Frankenstein's mentor replied on: 3/2/2004 10:26:08 AM When Gods and Monsters opened the Film Festival in c.1999, a filmed apology preceeded the film. Ian Mckellen warned that the opening scenes are captioned "Dudley, just outside London, 1900". American viewers would become confused by the mention of Birmingham, for that was surely in Alabama? No mention of the lack of accent, but probably the same reasons. "Dudloiiiii, Dudloiii! Birowwwkn biskits!!"&c PS This section captioned with: "Make a case for your favourite son (or daughter) of Brum here". Why is "or daughter:" parenthesised?
racheymaus old hand Rank: Chinny This message was updated on 3/2/2004 8:37:20 PM by racheymaus	Frankenstein's mentor replied on: 3/2/2004 8:07:52 PM I was really annoyed no one replied to this post. So thanking you Mr(?) Winalot. It's only taken nine months. Coulda grown a child in that time! The parenthisisation, I assumed, was because "favourite son" is a recognised phrase, but in this new fangled age of womyn's rights some might see this as a tad dismissive of feminine contributions to society and local pride, but not wanting to disrupt the rhythm of the phrase. Gowwon, take yowr shert off an oyl av a look.
bounder chairman of the board Rank: Ozzy	Frankenstein's mentor replied on: 3/2/2004 9:59:40 PM "The parenthisisation, I assumed, was because "favourite son" is a recognised phrase, but in this new fangled age of womyn's rights some might see this as a tad dismissive of feminine contributions to society and local pride, but not wanting to disrupt the rhythm of the phrase." thas about roit
niccolomac	Frankenstein's mentor replied on: 4/16/2004 10:46:42 AM James Whale was born and bred in Dudley,which is not,and never has been,part of "Greater Birmingham".The film "Gods and Monsters" was a disappointment to me,a missed opportunity to explore this great director's formative years in the Midlands. But the absence of a Midlands' accent for Whale was not one of the film's faults.Whale had worked hard to eradicate his accent,believing,with some justification given the prevailing prejudices then,that it would hamper his chances of a career in the theatre,which he had hankered after.His success in the theatre as a director was to lead to his success in films. A monument to Whale is long overdue in Dudley - but I can't say I'm surprised at the lack of recognition for this genuine talent,indeed genius.
peakyblinder old hand Rank: Chinny	Frankenstein's mentor replied on: 4/16/2004 11:03:59 AM quote: James Whale was born and bred in Dudley,which is not,and never has been,part of "Greater Birmingham".The film "Gods and Monsters" was a disappointment to me,a missed opportunity to explore this great director's formative years in the Midlands. But the absence of a Midlands' accent for Whale was not one of the film's faults.Whale had worked hard to eradicate his accent,believing,with some justification given the prevailing prejudices then,that it would hamper his chances of a career in the theatre,which he had hankered after.His success in the theatre as a director was to lead to his success in films. A monument to Whale is long overdue in Dudley - but I can't say I'm surprised at the lack of recognition for this genuine talent,indeed genius. That's quite sad. How are we ever going to overcome this anti-Birmingham and Black Country accent prejudice if everyone has elocution lessons in order to get on in life? It doesn't help when people who do get on in life and don't drop their Brummie accent, like Carl Chinn, are constantly slated by other Brummies. We need more intelligent, articulate and successful people with Brummie accents to show small-minded people that their misconceptions and stereotypes are wrong. I sometimes wonder whether us Brummies are our own worse enemies. You do realise that your complacency now will seriously affect the education and career prospects of your children, don't you? Well, why don't you do something about it, then? I despair sometimes, I really do.
racheymaus old hand Rank: Chinny	Frankenstein's mentor replied on: 4/16/2004 11:29:25 AM Dudley IS part of Greater Birmingham, so there. How can you tell me I'm wrong when I made the damn thing up! Anywhere south of Manchester and North of London that has something to offer the Midlands is clearly dominated by our gravitational pull. Shitness or not shitness aside, we're just bigger. I have a proposal to solve the accent problems: all the Sue Lawleys, James Whales and other re-animated traitors should be forced to revert to Brumminess once they've made it, thereby highlighting the career hampering prejudice against our accent, but proving we're not thick, unintelligable and unattractive to behold. Tah-dah!
peakyblinder old hand Rank: Chinny	Frankenstein's mentor replied on: 4/16/2004 6:35:19 PM quote: Dudley IS part of Greater Birmingham, so there. How can you tell me I'm wrong when I made the damn thing up! Anywhere south of Manchester and North of London that has something to offer the Midlands is clearly dominated by our gravitational pull. Shitness or not shitness aside, we're just bigger. I have a proposal to solve the accent problems: all the Sue Lawleys, James Whales and other re-animated traitors should be forced to revert to Brumminess once they've made it, thereby highlighting the career hampering prejudice against our accent, but proving we're not thick, unintelligable and unattractive to behold. Tah-dah! Too right. Birmingham is not the second city. Birmingham is the undisputed capital of the Midlands, London is the capital of the south, and either Newcastle, Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield, York, Hull, etc. is the capital of the north of England.
Mittonsmate Rank: Jasper	Frankenstein's mentor replied on: 4/18/2004 11:13:30 AM quote: Dudley IS part of Greater Birmingham, so there. How can you tell me I'm wrong when I made the damn thing up! Anywhere south of Manchester and North of London that has something to offer the Midlands is clearly dominated by our gravitational pull. Reminds me of that apocryphal American tourist guide to Britain which describes Birmingham as "a large industrial town (sic) outside Stratford-on-Avon."
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