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racheymaus
old hand Rank: Chinny |
Best Midlander
replied on: 9/19/2003 7:03:36 PM It's Mitchell! Hurrah. The spitfire triumphs once more. |
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peakyblinder
old hand Rank: Chinny |
Best Midlander
replied on: 9/19/2003 7:21:59 PM Did Mitchell win? Good. I was sure Shakespeare was going to win it. Even though he was a Brummie (type 'Did Shakespeare speak Brummie?' into your search engines), he was a rabid fascist. Alex Henshaw, top spitfire test pilot, used to fly from the Castle Vale aerodrome, often performing daring stunts like flying straight through aircraft hangars. Them was the days. I went to a Tumble Jungle today. Looks like rain. |
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racheymaus
old hand Rank: Chinny |
Best Midlander
replied on: 9/19/2003 10:52:20 PM Why rabid fascist? Aaron, the 'blackamoor' in Titus Andronicus, is the only decent parent. Shylock was clearly stitched up by the laws of a corrupt ENGLAND. He left his wife a dead good bed in his will. Debated the notion of the Divine right of royalty. Promoted communist aims and equality for all. Flirted with anything that might shag him (ie: was open to all kinds of sexuality) and ridiculed the notion of definite, restrictive sexuality. Society's indefensible attitudes to disability were shown to deform certain king's abilty to rule. Kiss me Kate! Lear's ridiculous insistence on empty flattery is sooooooooooooo anti Blair. He was anti racist, anti sexist, pro-sexual, pro thinking, etc, etc, etc, etc. HOW IS THAT THE VOICE OF A FASCIST????? Sorry. I drank a little cabernet sauvignon, and I was looking forward to the night out. Ariel and his silly bikes. My carer doesn't deem it fit for me to leave very often. Please let me out in October.... Yes, I was delighted about Mitchell. As my wee babe said, he won us the war. That was a good thing. Exigesis, my arse! |
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peakyblinder
old hand Rank: Chinny |
Best Midlander
replied on: 9/20/2003 9:41:29 AM Re; "Flirted with anything that might shag him (ie: was open to all kinds of sexuality) and ridiculed the notion of definite, restrictive sexuality." Since when did promiscuity and/or an open-minded approach to sexuality guarantee egalitarian principles? Caligula shagged just about anything that moved, as did Ernst Rohm. Re: "He left his wife a dead good bed in his will." Albeit his "second best." Re: "Debated the notion of the Divine right of royalty." In which of his works does he do this? In most of his plays he invariably adopts a totalitarian stance in support of the existing hegemony. See, for instance, Measure for Measure, where Shakespeare is in quite open support of the oppressive rule of the Duke who sees it as his divine right to keep his people under constant surveillance and punish any and all wrongdoings with the utmost severity. Very 1984, but Shakespeare would not have agreed with Orwell. Re: "Promoted communist aims and equality for all." Communist as in the above mentioned surveillance, maybe, but certainly not egalitarian. Totalitarian is the word I would use - he rarely questions authority or class, and his characters usually conform to social stereotypes (i.e. verse for those with blue blood, prose for the uncouth proles). Re: "Society's indefensible attitudes to disability were shown to deform certain king's abilty to rule." Tosh! Shakespeare uses Richard III's deformity (the real Richard III was not disabled) to imply that he was as twisted on the inside as he is on the outside. Modern day playwrights would not be allowed to get away with this, so why should he? Re: "He was anti racist." I beg to differ. Shakespeare's anti-Semitism is well known. To those who would argue that Shakespeare is merely writing about the sexism, racism and fascism endemic of the Elizabethan era, I say read some Jonson or, even, Webster. They rarely stoop so low. |
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racheymaus
old hand Rank: Chinny |
Best Midlander
replied on: 9/20/2003 7:53:56 PM I'd be happy to discuss this with you as I'm a bit too tired to analyse what is wrong with your arguments here. I think Measure...shows the hypocrisy of blind acceptance, Richie2 explores divine rights and wrongs. Ok. Maybe I was being a bit disagreeable. |
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