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NH350Ariel old hand Rank: Ozzy	NH350Ariel replied on: 2/17/2004 10:29:36 PM thank you for the generous,if qualified, praise Rachy. I am a lover of beards, particularly on men. I have sported various combinations of facial hair since I was able. My first styles were a little sparse and fluffy and of a gingerish nature but of late I favor a fuller growth. I also favor a lot of white streaks or so it seems. I am not however a motorcycle obsessive, I have other interests. Did I ever tell you of my membership of a group devoted to post boxes or of my large but disorganized collection of sparking plugs?
rotunda pants villa, but nice with it Rank: Ozzy	NH350Ariel replied on: 2/18/2004 8:36:27 AM Beards are like women. At first scratchy and abrasive, but eventually, if you look after them, they are a warm and comforting friend that you are proud to be seen with. And they both look stupid on a camel.
peakyblinder old hand Rank: Chinny	NH350Ariel replied on: 2/18/2004 9:09:32 AM quote: thank you for the generous,if qualified, praise Rachy. I am a lover of beards, particularly on men. I have sported various combinations of facial hair since I was able. My first styles were a little sparse and fluffy and of a gingerish nature but of late I favor a fuller growth. I also favor a lot of white streaks or so it seems. I am not however a motorcycle obsessive, I have other interests. Did I ever tell you of my membership of a group devoted to post boxes or of my large but disorganized collection of sparking plugs? Why do all bikists have tatts? Is it possible to admire bikes and not have tatts? Discuss.
liquorlicence likes beer and blues Rank: Chinny	NH350Ariel replied on: 2/18/2004 1:38:41 PM I'm a Mod and I have a tattoo, although I suspect that certain so-called "proper" Mods would say that Mods shouldn't have tattoos, perhaps this is why bikers have an abundance of them.
NH350Ariel old hand Rank: Ozzy	NH350Ariel replied on: 2/18/2004 6:48:30 PM Of course all bikers are not tattooed. I think that those of us with ink are in the minority. Some of us however have a lot of ink and are not scared of showing it. I think that we need to examine the social status of the motorcycle in history. Pre 1890. No bikes or bikers. Pre WW1. Very much the preserve of the gentry, bikes tended to be eccentric in design as did their owners. Post WW1 until WW2. Machines became more standardised in design during the 1930s, most following Val Page`s (of Ariel, Birmingham)layout, far more reliable and cheaper and were the ideal form of transport for the middle classes. Roads were also improving making motorcycling a viable form of transport rather than a pastime for the gentry. Post WW2. During the war factories were geared up for mass production so the price of new bikes was cheaper in relative terms than ever before. There were also many thousands of ex military machines for sale. The end of the war also started a revolution in social attitudes. The empire was in its death spasms, the heros returning from the war were sick of the status quo (shitty band). The world was a smaller place than it had been during the 1930s and music and culture from America were readily available. The teenager was born. This rebellious generation elected the first labor govt. The symbol of youth freedom on both sides of the Atlantic was the motorbike . Films such as "The wild one" and "Rebel without a cause" gave the bike its bad boy image, and the first working class bike clubs or gangs were formed. Bikes and their riders were deemed to be antisocial and being a biker became a youth cult. With our newly acquired social position of outcast we adapted our own set of rules among these was tattooing. It marked us out from the rest of society who were quietly getting on with getting old. Biking has always had a macho image so going under the needle was a mere extension of biking. It was in many cases an attempt to conform with a group identity. many bikers are superstitious (death is always a close traveling companion) and a lot of tattooing is thought to be lucky. Post Thatcher... Biking is so expensive now that it is once again the reserve of the middle aged well heeled. The guy on the modern Jap multi cylinder death trap in day glo leathers is far less likely to visit his tattoo shop than his 18 year old daughter who will show her individualism by getting a little dolphin on her shoulder just like all her mates.
NH350Ariel old hand Rank: Ozzy This message was updated on 2/18/2004 6:59:00 PM by NH350Ariel	NH350Ariel replied on: 2/18/2004 6:52:17 PM I think I woffled on a bit there. Plenty of ink also helps to cover the oil stains. As far as biker music goes, I think the Mods got the best deal. My personal choice of listening is modern jazz and Russian church music.Hardly fits the stereotype.
racheymaus old hand Rank: Chinny	NH350Ariel replied on: 2/18/2004 10:02:54 PM Don't remember many bikes in Rebel.., more cars, and they're a capitalist status symbol. And always felt The Wild One was a call for understanding, everyone's mean to Marlon so he goes all surly. It's the uptight squares, not the bikers we have to fear.
NH350Ariel old hand Rank: Ozzy	NH350Ariel replied on: 2/18/2004 10:57:20 PM I have not actually seen Rebel, I think you are right about the cars though. Post war British kids could not afford cars so we made do with two wheels but the "fu*k you" attitude was the same. The greatest biker movie ever made was of course "Easy rider" closely followed by "On any Sunday". The good biker films are out numbered by the bad ones. "Hells Angels 69", "Hells Angels on two wheels" and the unforgettable (unforgivable) " Biker chicks in zombie town".The young Jane Fonda made an absolute stinker with "Girl on a motorcycle" originally called " You are always naked under black leather".
Mittonsmate Rank: Jasper	NH350Ariel replied on: 2/19/2004 8:10:23 AM quote: The young Jane Fonda made an absolute stinker with "Girl on a motorcycle" originally called " You are always naked under black leather". No she didn't - that was Marianne Faithfull.
Mittonsmate Rank: Jasper	NH350Ariel replied on: 2/19/2004 8:29:19 AM quote: And always felt The Wild One was a call for understanding, everyone's mean to Marlon so he goes all surly. It's the uptight squares, not the bikers we have to fear. Go tell it to the punters who were down the front at Altamont. As Stanley Booth says in "The True Adventures of The Rolling Stones" - "The biggest group of playmates in history was having recess, with no teachers to protect them from the bad boys, the bullies, who may have been mistreated children and worthy of understanding but would nevertheless kill you."
NH350Ariel old hand Rank: Ozzy	NH350Ariel replied on: 2/19/2004 9:11:07 AM It was indeed Ms Mars Bar (now tell me it was a Milkyway)MM. It was still a very bad film.
NH350Ariel old hand Rank: Ozzy	NH350Ariel replied on: 2/19/2004 8:12:19 PM Do any of you have any experiance of hair bleaching? I dont want to buy a big box of stuff from the chemist as I have very short hair and only need a little. Could I use the stuff you put down the bog?
racheymaus old hand Rank: Chinny	NH350Ariel replied on: 2/19/2004 9:01:43 PM I bleached my hair when I was seventeen. Some of it went blonde.
NH350Ariel old hand Rank: Ozzy	NH350Ariel replied on: 2/19/2004 11:48:58 PM That does not really help.I want good advice not anecdotes. Will Domestics turn me into a blond G-d or just send my head scabby?
Gravy Hole Rank: Oddie This message was updated on 2/20/2004 12:06:56 PM by Gravy Hole	NH350Ariel replied on: 2/20/2004 12:04:56 PM Do not use domestos, scabby is not the word for it. More like a bald pustula all over your nut. Is there any resonance in this? Psycle Sluts (Pt II) by John Cooper Clark the dirty thirty the naughty forty the shifty fifty the filthy five zips, clips, whips and chains wait for you to arrive hell's angels by the busload stoned stupid, how they strut smoked woodbines till they're banjoed and smirk at the swedish smut life on the straight and narrow path drives you off your nut by day you are psycopath by night you're a psycle slut on an Ariel with two bald tires you drove a million miles you cut your hair with rusty pliers and you suffer with the pillion piles you got built in obsolescence oh you got guts but you don't reach adolescence slow down psycle sluts motor cycle michael wants to buy a tank only twenty-nine years old and he's learning how to wa nk yesterday he was in the groove today he's in a rut my how the moments move brut fun psycle sluts he cacks on your originals he peepees on his boots he makes love like a footballer he dribbles before he shoots the goings on at the gang-bang ball made the citizen's tut-tut-tut but, what do you care, piss all you tell 'em psycle sluts now your boyfriend burned his jacket ticket expired tyres are knackered knackers are tired you can tell your tale to the gutter press get paid to peddle smut now you've ridden the road of excess that leads to the psycle sluts or you can dine and whine on stuff that's bound to give you boils hot dogs direct from cruft's done in diesel oil or the burger joint around the bend where the meals thank christ are skimpy for you that's how the world could end not with a bang but a wimpy.
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