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WHORYA Rank: Chinny	THE NEW MITTON THREAD posted on: 3/5/2004 7:23:45 AM There you go aerial;i only carried it on in the hope of finding out who he is or was.
DocSausage	Doc Sausage on Charlie Bad Boy Mitton replied on: 3/5/2004 3:19:55 PM Threadbare and snarling With a fresh and knightly lance, Charlie Bad Boy Mitton (he of cyber infamy) Is back on the streets: Stalking the agents Of the inauthentic With the blues The runes And a gutfull of rusty pipes.
DocSausage This message was updated on 4/5/2004 12:44:04 PM by DocSausage	an angry sausage does not mince his words replied on: 3/5/2004 3:54:09 PM
WHORYA Rank: Chinny	an angry sausage does not mince his words replied on: 3/8/2004 7:26:19 AM That looks abit overpriced at 20 cents.
Derradah Rank: Toyah	an angry sausage does not mince his words replied on: 3/8/2004 9:38:07 AM Is it true, Dr Sausage. that you have really developed a lisp?You are really now Thothage.Then Thoth really must have been placated. We'll keep you posted. By the way, does n't it say 10c.
niccolomac	an angry sausage does not mince his words replied on: 3/8/2004 11:48:57 AM Evaluating the deranged "navel fluff ramblings" of Bad Boy John 'Charlie' Mitton can hardly be considered a worthwhile investment of time.However,since Mitton inveighs against what he recognizes as a portrait of himself as Bad Lad Porlock in Paul Lester's little fictional volume "What the Ketamine Brought In" it is perhaps only fair to any readers attending to quote from the work so that its accuracy may be judged.The narrator is sitting in an unnamed Birmingham city centre pub when his society is intruded upon,in a characteristic mannerless fashion:"Bad Lad Porlock,banned from every pub in the city,has also just come in.Scars from every bar in a storm.A mug for any woman to run from.Straight out of the cast list of the Munsters.Zero in booze tolerance.When Johnny Nitrous gave him a dose of the laughing gas all Bad Lad could do was weep.\so far the barman hasn't noticed him.I can see Bad Lad is gearing up to the only subject which really interests him,namely himself,ready to try to bore his way into being the centre of attention.Luckily there's no guitar with him to torture with pastiches of blues' playing betters......A pumpkin leer breaks into the slurping of the phrases 'Hey ,man.Listen,man.Hey,man',every so often showering the table with dandruff and spittle.I hear Bad Lad utter the incantation 'post-modernism',and I know that,if he is allowed,this table will become the latest site for his reactionary brand of self-absorption;the abject substance of his egology:I ignore him". The narrator is surely to be commended.
live before you die Rank: Toyah	an angry sausage does not mince his words replied on: 3/10/2004 4:00:31 PM Charlie mitton is just a drug abused drunk whose self obsession has become a joke,as for you lot always talking about him i'm reminded of a good little ditty "who's the fool,the one that leads or the one that follows" let him drift into obscurity where he belongs.
Mittonsmate Rank: Jasper	an angry sausage does not mince his words replied on: 3/11/2004 8:51:07 AM quote: Charlie mitton is just a drug abused drunk whose self obsession has become a joke,as for you lot always talking about him i'm reminded of a good little ditty "who's the fool,the one that leads or the one that follows" let him drift into obscurity where he belongs. Are you saying that the BiNS forum doesn't already constitute obscurity??
Derradah Rank: Toyah	an angry sausage does not mince his words replied on: 3/11/2004 12:41:05 PM Indeed,but it can at least be said that it has fed 5000.The obscure chapbooks and tomelets of Dr. Paul Lester have probably not fed that number between them.This Niccolomac geezer MUST be his agent.It's been a bit of a bone of contention in literary theory as to whether the mimetic use of "real life"constitutes imaginative fiction.But then is it ever a valid project to claim a true reality.These nutmegs have,I think,already been ironed out in the previous thread before the appearance of this "Johnny come lately"who seems,if I'm reading his sub-text correctly,to be mainly interested in publicizing the literary daubings and doggerel of the much reforgotten Dr. Lester.
DocTHOTHAGE This message was updated on 3/11/2004 1:14:36 PM by DocTHOTHAGE	an angry sausage does not mince his words replied on: 3/11/2004 1:13:14 PM quote: ...the literary daubings and doggerel of the much reforgotten Dr. Lester. Ith thith the chap who thportth an orange beard and appearth to be contemptuouth of even the bathic thothial nithetieth? A man who thrtrikth me ath a truly dithturbed individual? Ith it he, pray?
DocSausage This message was updated on 3/11/2004 1:31:25 PM by DocSausage	an angry Thothage doth not minth hith wordth replied on: 3/11/2004 1:30:49 PM I have a problem. No quantity (or indeed quality) of sausagemeat can save me now. I am being eaten alive by the great Go....
Derradah Rank: Toyah	an angry Thothage doth not minth hith wordth replied on: 3/11/2004 2:39:32 PM On Monday afternoon, as part of the Brum Screen Fest, the UGC on Broad Street was screening a new print of my all time favourite film, "Performance." I'll never forget the all-day event which the ICA devoted to the film. All the actors were there (apart from Jagger, who was on a U.S. tour with the Stones) - Anita Pallenberg looking like the world's most glamorous granny, Johnny Shannon still looking exactly like Harry Flowers, and James Fox looking like a retired bank manager. The guy who played "Rosie" was actually sitting right next to me during the screening, and our old mate Iain Sinclair was in the audience too. The most compelling evocation of darkside psychedelia ever commited to celluloid
Derradah Rank: Toyah	an angry Thothage doth not minth hith wordth replied on: 3/11/2004 2:44:29 PM Having watched the film again with Matey yesterday, I've just made the following notes as prompts for further discussion. Holographic referentiality - There's not a single image or line of dialogue in the film that doesn't either repeat, reflect, refract, refer to, or resonate with other images and phrases within it. A cinematic fractal. Brings to mind the Avatamsaka Sutra's metaphor of Indra's net - a network of pearls so arranged that if you look at one you see all the others reflected in it - which Fritjof Capra compares to quantum interpenetration. Mirror play - Mirrors feature throughout the film, especially in relation to the construction of personal identity (cf. the "Mirror Stage" in Lacanian theory). Note also Pallenberg's real life physical mirroring of Brian Jones, and the scene in Cammell's later film "The White of the Eye," where the killer makes his victim look at her reflection in a mirror as he drowns her. Visual puns - The boyish Michele Breton in bed with Jagger, filmed to make her look exactly like a young Keith Richards. Chas's armpit / Pherber's fanny. Note also the conspicuously foregrounded packet of brown sugar on Turner's kitchen table. Oh yes, and what are those Mars bars doing on the doorstep when Chas arrives at Turner's house? Al-chemically deconstructed binaries - Self-other, male-female, hetero-homo, sex-violence, normality-insanity, art-life. With regard to the latter, it was rumoured that Pallenberg surreptitiously slipped James Fox a tab of acid on set. At any rate, after delivering the performance of his life, he had some sort of mental breakdown and subsequently joined a fundamentalist Christian sect called the Navigators. Also when Donald Cammell killed himself with a bullet to his brain, he lived just long enough after firing the shot to enquire of the woman he was with - apropos the hole in his head - "Can you see Borges?"!! The Sinclair connection - In almost every one of his books there is a reference to Performance, and of course its screenplay manuscript is a central element in his "Cardinal and the Corpse" TV film. Hardly surprising, then, that he should turn up at the ICA event devoted to it. But just what is it about the film that draws him to it, and how, if at all, has his own work been influenced by it? Discuss.
Barriminge Rank: Jasper	an angry Thothage doth not minth hith wordth replied on: 3/11/2004 2:51:09 PM The chinese box aspect of the films construction (the constant interweaving of image and text - the alchemical 'As Above, So below' vibrating on the celestial monochord) also rests on the fragmentary and cyclical approach to editing as a means to blur and fuse the linear timeline of events (how much of this is Cammell and how much Roeg? 'Don't Look Now'?). The precedence is in the avant-garde short film work of the late 40's and 50's (Markopoulos, Peterson, etc), and perhaps 'Point Blank' as Lee Marvin walks simultaneously backwards and forwards through his past towards nowhere? Mirror references in 'Performance': Narcissus - both Chas and Turner are narcissists inhabiting opposing / complementary poles of Thanatos and Eros, in oneiric dreamscapes of eroticism (a parallel with Cammell's view of himself during the 60's, by all accounts?). The mirrors provide portals to the self, a means of entering the internal, a form of reverse scrying (Cocteau's mirrors in 'Le Sang d'un Poete' and 'Orphee')? Narcissism externalised by the louche decadence of the house - the hangings, the velvet, the opulent bathroom, a realisation of the room of one's room favoured by Baudelaire and Huysmans (Christopher Gibbs' set design for the house modelled on the flat he had designed for Brian Jones, who blurred physically with Anita Pallenberg, who? <http://www.chatarea.com/images/wink.gif> ? 'The White of the Eye' refers backwards in English cinema towards Powell's 'Peeping Tom' and further on to the strangling viewed in the haunted mirror in 'Dead of Night' (1945) - layers of observation?Death and mirrors - Bergman's 'The Serpents Egg' and Dennis Nielsen powdered in front of the French windows? The explicit mirror eye to Borges - the cracked mirror reflecting Borges' sightless eyes, and the mirror that Cammell used to watch himself die - the wound in Turner's head as a premonition of Cammell's head-wound, the cracked mirror that looks for Borges as the lifeforce ebbs from the skull ? And yet all mirrors are a duality - obsidian is the only true reflector? Binary reflections: no first name, no last name?the contrast of the insular and the expansive - Chas' Englishness and Turner's internationalism?residual traces left from Losey's 'The Servant' - Fox again losing control and becoming something other - though here that process is more mutual: the transmigration between the 2 is more equal, as Chas becomes 'softer' and Turner becomes 'harder': very alchemical in the sense that they both embrace the other half of themselves, and seem to merge (the car window before the close) - identity never resolves itself as a singular? The Sinclair connection: perhaps the film strikes chords with certain themes that run through his work: - the London setting, acting as a celluloid talisman for his concerns... - the meeting between poles of London society: the bohemian upper class and the hardened working class, the hippy and the gangster, the Soho boys and girls, a very English affair (Bailey marking the faces in 1965 for the provinces). - The dreams and nightmares of the 1960's: Sinclair can only view the present through a prism constructed from the themes of the 60's (not a particularly useful trait)? - Sinclair's obsession with violence (what Peter Whitehead disparagingly referred to as "the male mysteries") - the fascination for those who do not partake in it, but observe with craning necks as if passing a kerbside death (just as Turner's ennui is checked by the invigorating effect of Chas' violent presence)?
Derradah Rank: Toyah This message was updated on 3/11/2004 5:18:18 PM by Derradah	an angry Thothage doth not minth hith wordth replied on: 3/11/2004 3:01:53 PM Well done! Plagiarism as PERFORMANCE. While we refute the concept of 'originality', we do not find it problematic that an idea of plagiarism implies an original. Although we believe all human 'creativiy' is accumulative(that is to say that all innovations are built on the sum total of what has gone before), it does not trouble us that there is in the past a point of origin. We cannot give an account of this point of origin and will not waste our time making philosophical speculations about such irrelevancies.
Mittonsmate Rank: Jasper This message was updated on 3/11/2004 7:59:50 PM by Mittonsmate	an angry sausage does not mince his words replied on: 3/11/2004 7:57:57 PM quote: quote: ...the literary daubings and doggerel of the much reforgotten Dr. Lester. Ith thith the chap who thportth an orange beard and appearth to be contemptuouth of even the bathic thothial nithetieth? A man who thrtrikth me ath a truly dithturbed individual? Ith it he, pray? No Doc, you're thinking of Ashley "Fire-Bucket" McGrath, the short-fused former rocket scientist who drinks in the Briar Rose. In common with Dr. Lester, however, he too harbours an intense dislike of Mitton, and is not averse to physically attacking him in the street.
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