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Spilway
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Impossibility Fiction.
replied on: 12/6/2004 7:39:38 AM quote: F. David Peat on Rupert Sheldrake: "........Waddington was moving towards a notion of development in which living matter in some way responds to a field of information which exerts a formative process over the processes of the cell. More recently these ideas have been taken much further by the biologist Rupert Sheldrake whose theory of morphic fields has aroused much controversy.Sheldrake has proposed that these fields of information do exist and influence the structure not only of living organisms but of inanimate matter as well.According to Sheldrake, all matter has an associated field of memory which plays an active role in guiding the formation of structures and various processes. Clearly if Sheldrake's idea is taken seriously, then it would extend the nature of matter by introducing a new level, that of active informatiion." Synchronicity. The Bridge between Mind and Matter.(1987) P.162. (Bantam) |
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Spilway
This message was updated on 12/8/2004 4:58:01 AM by Spilway |
Impossibility Fiction.
replied on: 12/7/2004 1:55:07 AM quote: In his book Peat refers to a system of logic developed by G. Spenser Brown which was much admired by Bertrand Russell: "The system which Spenser- Brown developed in his 'Laws of Form'is perfectly abstract, so it can be applied not only to the symbolic structuring of the universe, but also to the creation of forms and orders of thought out of some undifferentiated background. Just as the mythic and scientific accounts of creation begin with differentiation in an empty ground, so does 'Laws of Form' take as its origin a basic act of distinction.This suggests that the creative source must, itself, act as a kind of immediate and unconditioned perception....... The generation of form begins with nothing - a blank page in a logician's notebook, an empty void,a pleroma.. Within this void is placed a single mark, a line on an otherwise blank sheet. This is the first distinction. It can be thought of as the initial act of creation, the drawing of a distinction within the void, and out of it will emerge a world of dualities and opposites, that lead to the generation of form and time. Within empty space there can be no distiction, no up or down, no in or out, no above or below, no near or far.For empty space is totally symmetric, void of all information,so that, without an observer to draw distinctions and determine directions every point is the same as every other. But once an active observer, or a creative act of perception,is admitted into this void, then it becomes possible to draw the first distinction and in this way bring the dualities of the creatura into existence." The initial act of creation,if we see it to be the Big Bang, was, as we have speculated, a coincidence of giant proportions.Conventional logic tends to ignore this and priviliges the first number in the process of dualities in order to consruct a rational scheme.The media is forever blinding us with how sophisticated all of this becomes.The void is never referenced although some scientists believe that is a seething mass of energy that may be unnknowable.Perhaps this is what Hawking meant when he said that the Big Bang opened us up to the possibility of God. If KOTH's 'creative act of perception' leads him to an acausal link to a performing group fine.There is a logic to that and this thread. A universe within a universe.The 'sound ritual' may indeed be one such universe and again that may link to the creative act within an individual subjectivity, again a universe within a universe. The terms 'creatura' and 'pleroma' are employed originally by C.G.Jung and the refences to alchemy and the symbol of the egg are valid.You could enquire within Jung's 'Psychology and Alchemy' which mentions 'spiral representations of the centre, as for instance, the serpent coiled round the creative point,the egg' (p.217.Routledge). The question of 'names' as well as numbers is important to F.David Peat: "The creation through the evolution of distinctions, categories or contexts is also to be found in the myths of creation which equate the the appearance of order with that of naming.Names could be thought of as categories but they are not simply passive, descriptive sounds or referential symbols, for, according to these myths, they have an active quality that is able to produce order out of chaos. Indeed the act of naming creates distinctions so that the named stands out against its background and thereby establishes a movement of distinction.In the world's various religious and mystical traditions, the name has an active magical quality." Synchronicity. The Bridge between Mind and Matter. P.108. Bantam 1987. For that reason we might judge that an 'occult grammar' may actually exist or at least we have to re-examine the question of the arbitrariness of the signifier on mystical grounds!!! |
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Barriminge
Rank: Jasper |
Impossibility Fiction.
replied on: 12/7/2004 2:08:02 AM It seems then that we can create logical structures out of a kind of freedom.The geometrical points exist according to our own premise which exists in this act of perception. I do believe that Ariel has now been touched by the crazy logic of this because it makes sense that he should find that copy of Landor's Tower.I think we are beginning to synchronize.We have been brought solidly into B'ham.This is The 22nd web page of this thread. It now is creating a symmetry with the first thread or Book of Mitton.It has synchromeshed with the 22nd Aetherial Synergy. |
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Spilway
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Impossibility Fiction.
replied on: 12/7/2004 2:36:52 AM quote: "Dr. David Bohm argues that the best way of understanding the non-local connection in modern physics - Herbert's "cosmic glue" - is to regard both Mind and Universe as holograms. In a hologram, any part contains the information of the whole, as any page of _Finnegans Wake_, fully analyzed, seems to contain the information of the whole - "the park is gracer than the whole" - Philip K. Dick writes in VALIS: "... Hermes Trismegistos... said "that which is above is that which is below." By this he meant to tell us that our universe is a hologram, but he lacked the term." - VALIS means Vast Active Living Information System, or Joyce's - "The task above are as the flasks below, saith the emerald canticle of Hermes, " FW, 263, - note the backward (Alice through the looking glass) initials of the dreamer, Humphrey Chimpden Earwicker - Joyces's enthusiasm for Giordano Bruno began in adolescense and lasted his lifetime, and if you read Frances Yates's Giordano Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition and Frances Boldereff's Hermes to his son Thoth: Joyce's Use of Giordano Bruno in _Finnegans Wake_, you will see that Bruno was also trying to tell us our universe is a hologram, and Joyce understood him that way." - _Coincidance_ by Robert Anton Wilson off of _Semiotext U.S.A. Giordano Bruno -- Go to 'Landor's Tower'P.288: " The conceptual brownness of the Brummie boys, the Ketamine Kreeps,led me back to Bruno. Giordano Bruno,his missionary enterprise; a Hermetic faith,love and magic and the grand curvature of everything." |
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Barriminge
Rank: Jasper This message was updated on 12/7/2004 8:19:12 AM by Barriminge |
Impossibility Fiction.
replied on: 12/7/2004 8:14:50 AM The 'holographic universe' was a theme of Peter Whitehead as were the creation myths of the ancient Egyptians. We see the link with Joyce and modern literature.Duality in the sense of which we are speaking is an essential part of the energy producing process.The one Ketamine Kreep had to exist to energize the other and in terms of this thread Ariel had to exist for the energization of the collective enterprise of the Major Triad. It needed its blues note. Charlie tells me that Matey has been trying to be clever and say that the whole project is flawed. The real truth is that he desperately wants to be 'on the scene'. He quotes Wilber's critique of Fritjof Capra's 'Tao of Physics'- the untenable linking of mysticism and quantum mechanics.He contradicts himself when he does not detect that we are using precisely the techniques which might be attributed to Deleuze or even himself if he had bothered to remember what he, himself, had written.It is beyond quantum mechanics and if he really wants to know then David Bohm's reply To Renee Weber on this very question is apt: "Part of the ancient alliance between science and theology at the time of Newton was to make matter as materialistic as possible.... to emphasize the transcendance of God............In my view nothing is being reduced......Pure idealism would reduce matter to an aspect of mind.....Pure materialism would reduce mind to an aspect of matter.... Theyre interwoven......They're correlative categories of reality, always woven together as form and content are woven together." ( Dialogues with Scientists and Sages.Ps. 150-151. Penguin.i986) For instance, through Trystero's link with Deleuze and his acolytes we came to the idea of 'versioning'.Two subjectivities can produce uncannily the same 'material' story. Well now our perspective has changed and I think I may be able to re-construct 'The Birmingham Triangle' which is already on the internet in the 'Coventry' version already referenced. Again by a local act of non-locality we are ready to magically create an isomorphic text,something very close in form and content in the real world to something already written about.So uncanny it may be that it produces that unconditioned act of perception which mimics our acceptance of the Big Bang. |
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Barriminge
Rank: Jasper This message was updated on 12/7/2004 9:40:02 PM by Barriminge |
Impossibility Fiction.
replied on: 12/7/2004 9:36:32 PM quote:quote: " I heard Travel West Midlands are shipping in loads of Polish bus drivers, because Brummies don't want to. They printed it in the Mail last night, stating that TWM can't keep hold of staff because of a high number of attacks (both physical and verbal)from passengers. It's great way of advertising the job, isn't it? Be a bus driver! Generous pay! Uniform provided! Get your head punched by a fare dodger! Why have they decided on Polish drivers? Is there an EU surplus? Did they think that because 'Walsall' sounds a bit like 'Warsaw' that the Poles will feel at home driving our peasant carriers" This is a quote from this peasant called Rotunda Pants on another thread. This is the trope who tried to set up a new 'Mitten' thread and was almost immediately hexed by synchronizuing with our reference to 'Charlie Mitten' the footballer.. Well, for showing disreaspect it seems the 'force' has hexed him again. An ACOP shoots him down.By some bizarre coincidence Mitton's real father (not his adopted one)was Polish.It is very relevant to the 22nd Synergy.).....was Polish - and a bus driver!!!!It is very relevant to the 22nd Synergy....not just because as I looked at it a moment ago it had been viewed 22 times but because this obviously relates to his mother who was 22.This is the holographic universe in action.Well done R.p. |
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Spilway
This message was updated on 12/8/2004 4:35:45 AM by Spilway |
Impossibility Fiction.
replied on: 12/8/2004 2:57:48 AM quote: Maybe by setting up this new thread this Rotunda Pants has unconsciously created a symmetry with this quote from one Xerxes Quisada from the very first page of the first Mitton thread. What you say is very feasible Barri. It is indeed a very weird ACOP that R.P., by shunning this thread (thereby disrespecting it), should unwittingly write himself into it. The Shakespeare-spouting racheymouselet is another example of someone whose interests have been deconstructed by this 'force' since the finding of the Ariel synchrony in a random google search should similarly have a bearing on how people thrreafter read the bard.Ben Watson the other week played three of Charlie's songs on his radio show and he described him as a stewarthomeian 'avant bard' unintentionally reinforcing the original po-mo blues prophecy which was to 'merge the avant-garde with the arriere-garde' (as mentioned on Mitton's 'Postmodernist Blues cassette tape). The idea of simplicity in mathematics through a basic duality accords not only with the 'Occam's razor' approach to scientific proof by equations but also accords with Robert Osserman's view ( The Poetry of the Universe.1995. Weidenfeld and Nicholson) that beauty lies in simplicity and therefore we suggest that the 'singularity' is best thought of in terms of being the bridge between the unprivileged void and conventional logic. One and one makes two but also makes three,if we are to follow Sam Cooke, which is what the world has done since time immemorial. F. David Peat has contrasted the logic of Spenser-Brown with conventional logic.The former takes on board a self-referentiality which is necessary to inject the creative force of symmetry-producing processes. It also solves certain logical conundrums encountered in philosophy and discussed by Russell amongst others.This must be the logic of Thoth because it introduces magic into mathematics, if only in a metaphorical sense. The movement of dualities Peat similarly equates with the Egyptian creation myths.Hence our interest in these threads in all those who have discussed them. These include Whitehead, Bauval, Hancock, Gooch,Peat and finally the very cryptic Sinclair for it is he who we are taking on.The unconditioned act of percepton is that which is experienced through the ACOP.A symmetry has been produced through the ACOP unwittingly provoked by Rotunda Pants* and it is similar but of less intensity to that produced when countenancing the correspondances with Sinclair's wider text.In the same way 'the force',as articulated by the Major Triad, has found out R.P., so it will the London Magus through the 22nd Aetherial Synergy. Birmingham is symbolicly getting its own back. *Rotunda Pants might like to know that not only was Charlie's blood father a Polish bus driver but also that he has several half-brothers and sisters, one of whom had slight fame as a pro-footballer.He was a winger who played for Coventry City and later Manchester United. Strangely, the other Charlie Mitten, the one who played for United had a son called John Mitten who played for Coventry City as a winger. Put that in your Mitten thread. A synchromesh in itself, it moreover relates acausally to Charlie's presentation of 'The Birmingam Triangle- The Art of turning base fact into Fiction.'at the University of Coventry.Sinclair informed Chaz when he told the Magus about it that he knew someone in Coventry who edited a periodical called 'Beat Scene', which celebrates beatnikry and who was Polish.Similarly 'pole', as we have already suggested, is a trope in the work of Sinclair,as is the word 'stone'.Ariel might like to know that it is dragged up in 'Landor's Tower' on p'107. We believe it to be part of the code which he has built into much of what he writes. The Major Triad seeks to break the code by demonstrating the very magic which he and his London King Mob can only hint at.It is done by fusing his text with its 'Polar opposite'. Yeh, the Hackney crew, we're gonna ***k you up. |
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trystero
Rank: Toyah |
Polish Drivers
replied on: 12/8/2004 3:23:31 PM Was it too a coincidence that I got the same delayed 10.30 train from New St.to Euston on Tuesday this week as Charlie? Did this too have a Polish driver? |
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KingoftheHeath
Rank: Jasper This message was updated on 12/8/2004 3:47:42 PM by KingoftheHeath |
Obsidian Code
replied on: 12/8/2004 3:37:06 PM Once again, the grains of time are against my response to this thread, and consequently previous posts will have to quietly pass into the fictive… The symbols of myth referred to in previous posts can be read as a negative/positive dynamic, a veil dropped or a veil raised. Collective usage? Poverty of thought? The idea of the void: the fundament, site of immersion or escape… In the Chinese myth, Pan Gu existed inside the universe which is described as an original emptiness and void of the universe in the same manner as the Ginnungagap of Norse myth and the limitless Divine Ordinance of the Sikhs. Even Atum-Re rises from Nu - the 'churning chaos' of the sea (the void)… Inside the egg: the blackening that occurs inside the egg (the stilling of the conscious mind - perhaps the state that Pan Gu had attained before a anti-Gnostic return to matter?) has a parallel with the golden egg of the Hindu Brahma (note the reference to the golden aspect of the vessel)... Egg metaphors always lead to metaphors of division and duality - the shell and the contents, the yoke and the white (and - of course- the whitening that leads to gold). Generation. These metaphors represent the reflector of the alchemical path (the striving for unity, the conjoining of distinct elements within the singular body)... Brahma used thought alone to divide the egg into 2 (reverse-rubedo), as did Pan Gu who divided the universe (described as a 'big black egg'). Interestingly, Atum Re is also responsible for the creation of the material world, which is - in itself - presented as the catalyst for the separation of sky from earth, a separation viewed in terms of above/below (alchemy) and mind/body (Gnosticism). In the Japanese myth, the separation of elements again involves a rising and falling (above/below) - division rather than coniunctio. However, one must note that the clouds (air) and sea (water) are unified by the Kunitokotatchi (the green shoot that rises out of the primordial depths) who creates gods on the grounds of loneliness, leading to the birth of the sun goddess from the left eye of Izanagi… (Due to the beautiful and resonant aspect of the calligraphic text, the Japanese character for 'Mother' is almost indistinguishable from that of the character for 'sea', leading to the transgressor's act of discharging his revolver into the oncoming waves at the end of Wakamatsu's 'Violated Angels' (1967))… Yes - along with Blake and Joyce, we do see these representations (generation / duality) in many other texts: Hoffmann, Artaud, James Hogg, Borges ('…and I' - the ego-text), Poe, Nabokov (who predated Sartre's delineation of the malevolent fascination of objects in his story 'Terror'), Meyrink (the Golem returned to silence with the word 'Meth' on the site of the 3rd eye), and more (Fuentes, Henry James, Conrad, Wilkie Collins, etc)… Otto Rank made explicit reference to the link between the double and the reflection in the mirror in 1914 noting that the focus on the double is that of Narcissus - a form of denial of death (obscurity) almost as if one were studying ones reflection on the Stygian river. This forms a cloud-trail to the non-obsidian panopticon as evidenced in this Mittonite thread... Regarding Sinclair's comment about Mitton being able to trace 'numinous' resonances in the city of Birmingham: how? Is there documentation of this ability? The piece on the Coventry website seemed to be a vanity piece lacking in substance… Rimbaud - "Perhaps he possesses secrets for transforming life? No, he is only looking for them"… It is in the enmeshed soundfields of 52 degrees N that the work of the Lunar Society finds its greatest (and true) expression - the stars our destination, or - as the Serbians would say - the body made of dung and stars…No time for self-mutilation, the ear closed to the currents, the negentropic tendency of 'closed' universes (Zukav), the non-obsidian panopticon…And you KNOW you must leave the capital… G.Spenser Brown may have something: it may be that some of us (unknowingly or knowingly) are acting as 'active observers' engaged in 'creative acts of perception'. It is certainly one to consider… |
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Barriminge
Rank: Jasper This message was updated on 12/26/2004 8:30:02 AM by Barriminge |
Polish Drivers
replied on: 12/8/2004 3:39:22 PM quote: This is a numinous resonance, Heath, and it's now documented. The phrase is from Sinclair of course (accredited to Mitton) and he sees 'numinous resonances' in all sorts of humdrum things and people ( and minor coincidences). In answer to the above posting, I know for a fact that he got off at Coventry: "Rotunda Pants might like to know that not only was Charlie's blood father a Polish bus driver but also that he has several half-brothers and sisters, one of whom had slight fame as a pro-footballer.He was a winger who played for Coventry City and later Manchester United. Strangely, the other Charlie Mitten, the one who played for United had a son called John Mitten who played for Coventry City as a winger. Put that in your Mitten thread. A synchromesh in itself, it moreover relates acausally to Charlie's presentation of 'The Birmingam Triangle- The Art of turning base fact into Fiction.'at the University of Coventry.Sinclair informed Chaz when he told the Magus about it that he knew someone in Coventry who edited a periodical called 'Beat Scene', which celebrates beatnikry and who was Polish." |
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Gravy Hole
Rank: Oddie |
Polish Drivers
replied on: 12/8/2004 5:56:57 PM Coventry Smoventry! Are you suggesting a Polish/Warwickshire synergy? This is all a load of total rubbish of course. It couldn't possibly happen. Except that the other day I had to sit and listen to some twit from the DTI (Dept of Torpour and Ineptitude?) rattle on about what a fantastic place Cov was to relocate a business. I pointed out to him, with the greatest of respect to our close neighbours, that it was a shithole. Tonight I'm going to a mate's birthday meal, there's six of us going. His wife has just moved to Coventry to work for Lloyds Pharmacy, he'll be joining her there very soon. Another great friend (from Birmingham) is going along tonight with his wife. You'll not be surprised to learn she's from Krackow. As I say, it's all bollox. |
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500ARIEL
Rank: Toyah |
alpha and omega
replied on: 12/8/2004 7:54:00 PM page 23 |
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Barriminge
Rank: Jasper This message was updated on 12/9/2004 6:06:57 AM by Barriminge |
The 22nd Aetherial Synergy
replied on: 12/9/2004 5:59:09 AM quote: Dear King, The Coventry piece is indeed the essence of the 22nd Aetherial Synergy and if Mitton traces numinous resonances in his 'Birmingham Triangle' then it simply is, at least for him,but also for Iain Sinclair since he references it both in 'Landor's Tower' and the Guardian Online as initiated by Bounds.It has for him at least a certain ontological force to it.By that I mean that the only substance that it needs in the first instance is for it to be part of a process of Jungian individuation for Mitton at least.You have agreed effectively that the movement of 'dualities' is indeed expressed in other myths.Mitton is allowed his own personal mythology as much as any other patient of Jung might in finding meaning in the seemingly irrational by a process of personal alchemy.We bow to your knowledge of these other myths and literary parallels but essentially they give support to our case. The 22nd Aetherial Synergy is indeed a new version of the B'ham Triangle. Mitton mimiced the constructions of Sinclair.. He drew a triangle around three churches.B'ham Cathedral, St. Martins in the Bull Ring and that other more mysterious one on Holloway Head just beyond what used to be the Greyhound pub which was a beacon to his own and the now deceased or not so deceased lives of many of his friends.The fire/alcohol devotees come back to haunt the author of 'Lud Heat'. The third church he had to explore since he did not know its name.There are plaques containing messages of peace there and it is situated just beyond the now closed Accident Hospital.He undertook this as a kind of quest. It was only by coincidence that he picked up a copy of Sinclair's 'Downriver'( described by Angela Careter as crazy, dangerous and prophetic)))) and discovered that that by some odd parallel Sinclair and his own 'opposite' Brian Catling/Joblard had undertaken a quest and similarly come across a church.There are gardens plaques, a closed down hospital and inscriptions.One of them reads: "Now I can die in peace, kiss me son." It turns out that Catling was like Mitty an adopted son. His mother had been 22 years old.The very same age as Mitton's own mother when she had had a child out of wedlock by a Polish bus driver. The interweaving and interrelatedness of the narratives is uncanny right down to the passing of seemingly crucial information by means of a jiffy bag.Matey should take note of this.If you think this has no numinous resonance then you have no soul or you're up your own ass. Not only the aforementioned account is of some substance but previously in 'Downriver'Sinclair gives an account of a 'crazed' interrogator called 'John Millom' who seeks to re-write Sinclair's work -inserting what is really missing - a proof by contact with the dead.Again a chillingly prophetic account according to our present reading. This is so interwoven and labyrynthine that Charlie realized that a story was writing itself as if the facts of the material world had been driven by some kind of intelligence.This bears the hallmarks of the 'archetypes' of Jung regenerating form as does 'The Lost Provinces' account. It would take a very mean-spirited person to deny the credibility of this. If it is so then the story should be known for its contribution to knowledge if nothing else, since the philosophers of science of whom we have spoken have so far have only been able to speculate on the credibility of such phenomena.Indeed the strange power of this process has even spread to this thread through the synchronicities noted. I think particularly of the uncanny way that Ariel came across that copy of 'Landor's Tower'The discovery of the 'kiss' inscription caused Catling to reflect on what it meant to be an adopted son - something that is very central to one's being.It was recounted as an epiphany. Charlie HAD to share this.They then very mysteriously they talk of their being a third person present. This would seem to reference the Trinity and again it hints at numbers having some occult significance.It was as though they needed a third person to complete what is called a 'magical get-out'. And so to '22'.Catling was mysteriously described in Sinclair's film,'The Cardinal and the Corpse' as a 'gnostic heretic'.'22' is sacred to the Kabbala which some see as related to gnosticism. It is the number of letters in their sacred alphabet and the number of steps to the Tree of Knowledge. To cap it all we learn a very short time later that Catling is coming to the Ikon Gallery to discuss what other than 'artists and the paranormal'.Itis as though this knowledge has a body and intelligence of its own and is trying to tell its story by coincidence.To compound this Matey shortly afterwards informs Charlie of the call for papers for the Coventry conference on 'living in a material world'. It was organized by academics who were interested in Sinclair's take on psychogeography. All of this suggests that Mitton has been the focus for some weird 'acausal' conspiracy which supplies to the arcane London 'project' its pole opposite - the fusion which it has to have to prove its validity.If not it the London text remains mere 'poetasting'. It needed to be 'taken on'. If you think there is nothing of 'substance' in this very bizarre train of events then I suggest you kick yourself into action by going on a vodka binge with Chaz. |
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Barriminge
Rank: Jasper |
alpha and omega
replied on: 12/9/2004 6:10:18 AM quote: You see Ariel,we are synchronizing. Page 22. |
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KingoftheHeath
Rank: Jasper This message was updated on 12/9/2004 10:09:42 AM by KingoftheHeath |
Our Soul
replied on: 12/9/2004 9:20:23 AM Does adoption mean anything more than a release from the restrictive (and useless) ties of bloodlines and family? Coincidence, resonance, correlatives, correspondences...sources of mild curiosity? Attention drawn away from the real matter at hand (in a similar manner to conspiracy theories and other forms of spectacle)... Might we temper the vodka with a little light glue sniffing? |
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