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Gravy Hole
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Big Ron
posted on: 4/22/2004 5:30:35 PM

No doubt you've all seen Big Ron Atkinson has blotted his proverbial copybook.

One short comment on calling a black Chelsea player a "f*cking lazy n*gger". Please bear in mind though, Ron is NOT a racist apparently.

He's had to resign his position with ITV and had his contract to write a footy cloumn in The Guardian terminated by mutual consent. I thought Rusbridger was a bit more liberal than that.

Really, whilst I'm a bit disappointed in him, what is the world coming to when someone like Ron is gagged in this fashion?
pixie_mason
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Big Ron
replied on: 4/23/2004 10:58:32 AM

Errrrmmm... I don't think there was much choice really. Comment to me smacks more of thoughtlessness - the kind of casual racism you hear in the pub all the time. Given all the efforts to tackle racism in football - it was the only thing to do. Fucking lazy wanker would have sufficed really, wouldn't it?

However - seems odd that Big Ron is banished from der media for this yet Jim Davidson, Bernard Manning et al are still churning out their bigotry.

I suspect Big Ron'll be back once its died down a bit...





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Big Ron
replied on: 4/23/2004 11:09:24 AM

I can't work out what the crime is, saying it? being caught? thinking it?

He's had to go now, of course as is right - but isn't it worse to think that there were racist/sexist/whateversist people in the media that don't get caught? how can you tell?

my big ron joke:
pixie_mason
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Big Ron
replied on: 4/23/2004 11:34:26 AM

Where's that from?
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Big Ron
replied on: 4/23/2004 12:40:04 PM

it's mine, the competion at http://www.thinkclear.co.uk/Expressions/
was a Fat Ron themed one, but suddenly it's not? hmm
pixie_mason
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Big Ron
replied on: 4/23/2004 2:12:17 PM

Fido Dido?! - there's a blast from the past, eh! Has he been resurrected by some lazy marketing company or did he never go away?

Ooh another thought on the Big Ron debacle - maybe cos he's gone through all the gredations of orange he sees himself as a 'person of colour'! Thus, maybe he was using 'nigger' in the sense of bro or homie - like a gangster rapper!
rotunda pants
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Big Ron
replied on: 4/23/2004 4:02:07 PM

Big Ron is from round here, isn't he? The same place that has produced Robert Kilroy-Silk and Enoch Powell. We'll get a reputation soon, and sports teams will refuse to play us, and outsiders will think birmingham is like 'Mississippi Burning' (hope I spelled that correctly!)
It seems strange though, that a man who made his managerial name bringing some of the first prominent black players through (Regis, Cunningham, Moses et al) even thinks stuff like that any more, let alone say it. It's a shame he wasn't as anti-black players when he signed that useless twát John "focus" Fashanu for the Villa.


BTW,they were still selling Fido Dido posters in Madeira when I was there a couple of years back, so he never went away, he's been lurking around on the continent. Like Rabies.
racheymaus
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Big Ron
replied on: 4/30/2004 8:47:52 PM

We should value his contribution to the debate of course. We tend to assume racism has been kicked out of contemporary life. Perhaps this a moment to evaluate whether those jokes are funny, should we say something next time, do we need to un-discriminate our institutions?

Not as funny as I'd hoped.

How come Dwight Yorke soldiered under the claret and blue banner for so long without setting the goal of the month award alight. Probably Ron's fault. I demand an enquiry, a guilty verdict on jangle jangle's head and a re-writing of football history in Villa's favour!
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Big Ron
replied on: 6/10/2004 4:32:02 PM

You can now hear what he actually said.

http://www.randomisgood.com/bigron.mp3

It doesn't sound to me like he's never said the word before.
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Big Ron
replied on: 6/11/2004 7:53:11 AM

Yes, sounds like a veteran racist to me.
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Big Ron
replied on: 7/16/2004 11:23:54 AM

On the news yesterday, we learn that Big Ron has been commissioned to make a TV prog on racism for the BBC. I can't wait, though I'm sure it will make for uncomfortable, toe-curling viewing.
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Big Ron
replied on: 7/16/2004 4:39:24 PM

I read about that today. Apparently he's doing a history of the word 'nigger'.
This is not a send up. It will focus on who says it and why they say it and who's allowed to get away with it and who isn't. Who thought this one up? Is he the most famous person to say the 'N' word? Why not have Ice Cube do it?
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