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m8e
Rank: Ozzy |
'Twixt pathology and performance
replied on: 12/4/2005 11:14:33 AM Anyway, getting back to Mittonian postmodern alcoholism, I was talking to a guy last night who swears he once asked Charlie for a swig from his voddy bottle, only to find that it was full of water! On expressing his surprise at this, the guy says that Charlie just gave him a conspiratorial look and uttered the single word, "image!" In any case, it seems that there's always an element of theatrical performance to Charlie's drinking, to the extent that if he worded the application (politically) correctly - making liberal use of such words as "postmodern," "conceptual" and "challenging" - I reckon he could get an Arts Council grant for it. |
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Russ-L
Rank: Jasper |
Postmodern alcoholism
replied on: 12/7/2005 4:13:37 PM quote: I was thrashed till I could be thrashed no more by Municipal Waste and Send More Paramedics there about six weeks ago. More recently I've seen rather fabby locals Mothertrucker and Chinook & The Charged Particles (not at the same gig). There's always something happening. The wonderful, wonderful, wonderful Carina Round is there next month. *** Isn't pretending to drink in order to act drunkenly the long way around, so to speak? Would one not make a more convincing job of it by actually drinking? I suppose financial considerations might be applicable. |
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falsedog
Rank: Jasper |
'Twixt pathology and performance
replied on: 12/7/2005 5:32:53 PM quote: ...this was the unlikeliest bit. |
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m8e
Rank: Ozzy |
'Twixt pathology and performance
replied on: 12/8/2005 12:43:35 AM quote:quote: Yes, I too have my doubts about this - especially as the guy in question is referred to by an old work colleague of his as "Jim Gobshite." And I should also mention that no matter how much of a performance element may be involved when Charlie, literally, acts "The Drunk," the regurgitation is always real enough. |
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m8e
Rank: Ozzy |
Graham Hancock
replied on: 12/8/2005 1:26:52 AM I see that Graham Hancock - a renowned investigator of ancient mysteries mentioned elsewhere on the Mitton threads - has got a new book out. Snappily titled "Supernatural: Meetings with the Ancient Teachers of Mankind," it sees Hancock lighting out into such hyper-speculative territory as alien abduction, parallel universes, extraterrestrially-coded DNA, and psychedelic shamanism - which certainly fits with Charlie spotting him in the audience at a psychedelic conference we went to in Bath last year. Of course Charlie immediately went over and laid his synchronicity jive on him, and claims he responded with great interest, although I never got to confirm this by speaking with Hancock myself, as he made a quick exit as soon as Charlie had finished talking to him. However, now that Hancock's new book makes his interest in all this far-out Forteana fully explicit, then maybe it's time for Charlie to talk to him again. |
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m8e
Rank: Ozzy |
The 23rd draws nigh
replied on: 12/16/2005 3:29:24 PM Looks like getting to page 23 on the 23rd is going to be a close run thing if the Mittonian avatars don't start posting soon. |
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Derradah
Rank: Toyah |
The 23rd draws nigh
replied on: 12/16/2005 4:57:46 PM quote: The following is a quote from the cover of Nick Lane's book,'In Search of Mitochondria'.In our lives, there are two Johns both with the a surname that has a double consonant as the third and fourth letter and an 'on' on the end. By coincidence they both in the 90s had a fascination with some one called Nick Lan-. If not enough of a coincidence, just as the one turns up a book which explores the notion that DNA might be in some way minded, the other turns one up that discusses the following quote. The authors of these books are both making controversial statements. Something weird must be going on. It can now not be a coincidence for the thread to finish on p.23 on the 23rd because one of the Johns has articulated it. It must be being therefore forced.That did not happen when Matey's computer refused to post.Nothing has been said recently because the difficult problem of handling a whole new range of connections is being considered. "What gives us our energy, is behind the origin of two sexes, and directs our ageing and death? The answer in each case lies in mitochondria. Mitochondria are tiny structures located inside our cells – miniature powerhouses that use oxygen to generate power. There are hundreds of them in each cell, some 10 million billion in a human being. Once considered menial slaves, mere workhorses for complex cells with nuclei, their significance is now undergoing a radical revision. Mitochondria are now seen as the key ingredient that made complex life possible at all. For two billion years, bacteria ruled the earth without ever generating true complexity – a stasis that may still grip life on other planets. Then the union of two bacterial cells led to an evolutionary big bang, from which algae, fungi, plants and animals emerged. For mitochondria were once free-living bacteria, and still retain unmistakable traits of their ancestry, including some of their original DNA. Ever since their fateful absorption, the tortuous and unpredictable relationship between the mitochondria and their host cells has forced one evolutionary innovation after another. Without mitochondria, nothing would exist of the world we know and love. Their story is the story of life itself. Today, mitochondria are central to research into human prehistory, genetic diseases, cell suicide, fertility, ageing, bioenergetics, sex and the eukaryotic cell. Piecing together puzzles from the forefront of research, this book paints a sweeping canvas that will thrill all who are interested in biology, while also contributing to evolutionary thinking and debate. This is a book full of startling insights into the nature and evolution of life, and should be read by anyone who wants to know why we’re here." |
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falsedog
Rank: Jasper |
The 23rd draws nigh
replied on: 12/16/2005 5:59:55 PM quote: it's his birthday, no? |
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m8e
Rank: Ozzy |
The 23rd draws nigh
replied on: 12/17/2005 2:06:25 AM quote:quote: Yes, the crazy bastard was born on the 23rd December. Not too sure of the year though. |
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m8e
Rank: Ozzy This message was updated on 12/17/2005 1:45:36 PM by m8e |
The 23rd draws nigh
replied on: 12/17/2005 12:18:52 PM quote:quote:quote: Although from the look of him on the fourth day of a vodka binge it could well be 1923. |
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falsedog
Rank: Jasper |
The 23rd draws nigh
replied on: 12/17/2005 11:20:41 PM quote: 1950 |
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m8e
Rank: Ozzy |
The 23rd draws nigh
replied on: 12/18/2005 12:57:42 AM quote:quote: How do you know? |
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Barriminge
Rank: Jasper This message was updated on 12/18/2005 4:00:37 PM by Barriminge |
Graham Hancock
replied on: 12/18/2005 3:54:18 PM quote: Yeh, for sure.What Hancock said in 'The Fingerprints of the Gods' is that the Ancients encrypted a code into their built structures through numbers. I told him that that was easy.They did that when they were alive. I have evidence that they are doing something while dead. They're planting 23s. The Hancock book is interesting and it has lead me back to study some of our sources. Some of the words numbers and general intellectual bric a brac which have appeared on the thread I have come to regard as molecules of information and the study of he Hancock cluster has engendered a juxtaposition with the work of the physicist Prigogine who I have also been studying. He believed that both the laws of Newtonian mechanics and quantum theory are time reversible and that the arrow of time is an important phenomenon which we must take into account if we are to achieve a fully integrated view of reality, one that may take into account human experience and social organization. They may, if studied in terms of an expanded understanding of entropy lead us to the conclusion that there is room for bifurcations and fluctuations in the laws of the universe. I have had to conclude that one of our 'molecules' of information that we can take to be paramount is of course, the 23 enigma. Indeed, when Matey mentioned 1923 in the last posting it corresponded to something that I had read the night before. It was in 1923 that Edwin Hubble established the idea of an expanding universe and in the next six years he noted 23 galaxies. It could then be regarded as a co-ordinate in our 'phase space' as I have learnt call that area where our logic seems to be establishing itself. The Hancock book has confirmed to me just how many of these alternative thinkers there are.He spoke recently at a conference which involved another speaker who was an expert on the 'Sirius' mysteries. Sirius is the 'dog star' situated at the feet of the constellation Orion, that which Bauval has said formed the model for the construction of three great pyramids. Sirius, in fact has another star accompanying it which is invisible. They are known as Sirius A and B.Robert Anton Wilson believes that there are aliens from Sirius that are playing jokes on us earthlings.It is Wilson who is fascinated by Bill Burroughs' 23 enigma and regards synchronicity as something like my molecules of information forming a mosaic effect on nature as if by intelligent design.We can now form a very large synchromesh of demonsrable co-ordinates which would seem to give credence to Prigogine's notion of bifurcation through entropy.It is as though we have been taking part in an experiment where someone ulterior to us is demonstrating his own thesis.Hancock is linked to Bauval and Bauval is linked to Peter Whitehead who sees himself as an embodiment of Horus the Falcon from Egyptian mythology. The rising of Horus as a reincarnation of his father Osiris is central to this mythology. This net of synchronic events is coming through Charlie Mitton who seems to have some mystical link with 23 since that is his birthday and he discovered the link through the maverick psychologist Stan Gooch who he met at a conference in London where a a guy came and pushed himself next to him in the toilet wearing a badge with 23 on it.It is as though the molecules of information seek each other out and form clusters as they have done on this thread.Nothing more than that of course though. These indeed are indicative of a new paradigm seemingly asserting itself out of the aether.Tonight Robert Winstone is doing his 'Story of God' series on BBC1 and I believe there is to be something said about the Super Collider Accelerator at CERN in Switzerland which is seeking to find the 'God particle' by consructing a very high velocity collision of particles in order to find the graviton or quantum gravity or Higgs boson or whatever it needs to create their Grand Unified Theory.They seek to unite quantum mechanics and gravity.In that which is on high so below.Only thing is these are both Prigogine's time reversible theories. They don't take into account our fluctuations that have grown out of degradation and entropy. They're kidding themselves if they think they have the whole story.This series of threads has I believe acted as a site for the Mittonian Strange Attractor and has done something never been done before.It has created its own non-linear mathematics of the synchronic and the transcategorical and found - The DOG particle. |
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Barriminge
Rank: Jasper This message was updated on 12/19/2005 1:10:10 AM by Barriminge |
Synchronicity 69 RErevisited
replied on: 12/19/2005 12:55:57 AM quote: But why did Mitton think of 23 as being of any significance? The answer is of course that he discovered a section in Iain Sinclair's 'Downriver' where the author or his alter ego goes on a quest to the Isle of Sheppey with his other half of a pair, Joblard.They find a church with a disused hospital, a garden and an inscription which is a message from a 22yr.old mother to the effect that she knew that he would return. Joblard and Mitton are both adopted children. Mitty goes on a similar quest and finds the same. The churches are both called St. Thomas. Ours in B'ham is at Holloway Head near the old Greyhound pub.Perhaps it is sometimes visited by Mitty's dead friends and beatnik brothers in crime who used to smoke dope there.At any rate a truly serendiptitious experience centred on the number 22, reching like mitochondria into the very heart of his being .Charlie then learnt that Joblard/Brian Catling was coming to B'ham to do a gig at the Ikon concerning artists and the paranormal. Just about right! The plot thickens. It was at that point that Chaz and Matey were asked by some people at the University of Coventry to contribute to a conference called 'Living in a Material World'It was as though the information itself was arranging events as if to publish its own paradigm. What's more though, Catling had been in a film by Sinclair and Chris Petit called 'The Cardinal and the Corpse' with Martin Stone (Nicholas Lane in Sinclair's novels).In this film Catling is described as a 'gnostic heretic' and he is seen to deal from a tarot pack.The number of main cards in a tarot system are 22.The film also deals with a number of other Sinclair obsessions including East End Jewry(remember Rodinsky/ Litvinoff/Performance). The number of letters in the alphabet of the Kabbala are 22.After realizing all of this Charlie finds out that some weird sect had said that the world is to end on December 23rd 2004. It never did but it was at that point that he determined to find out if 23 had any 'occult significance. The 23 round of ACOPs, as I have said were stimulated first of all in finding by chance Stan Gooch's book 'The Double Helix of the Mind' in Walsall library.It mentions Robert Anton Wilson, 23, and another interesting preoccupation of Gooch - the notion that everything in life is driven by pairing, twinning, double acts etc. This is so reminiscent of Sinclair that Charlie had to investigate. It led to his discovery of the 23 minefield, itself a coincidence since it was instigated by William S. Burroughs who is the Beat Daddy himself.Peter Whitehead has said that coincidence is reincarnation so maybe all this is Burroughs' way of telling us something.Maybe it's that in darkness there is no choice but right now we're always free to step into the light. It seems that everyone in this narrative has to be in the right place at the right time for it to work rather like the panoply of coincidences that formed life itself. These threads now have actually demonstrated the process.Charlie then crazily finds a book on 'mitochondria'which seems to echo his own name as if by some occult grammar. What's more though it is by someone called Nick Lane which he realizes is echoing Nick Land as if by the same occult grammar. 'Occult grammar' is a phrase he has stolen from Sinclair's early work 'Lud Heat', his template where the pairing of oppsites is openly acknowledged as an energy giving process and in a most mystical kind of way.His later work, his published material seems to be completely different yet we must believe , if we put 2+2 together that he still believes his dark stuff. there is a stem, which like the Deleuzian rhizome, emits both roots and shoots.He is the voice of the East End Necropolis and I believe that the Mitton text is the polar opposite that his wider text is secretly searching for to ignite the energy.The synchronicities are the molecules of the 'magick' that deconstructs Western metaphysics. How do I know that this search is real?Remember that the name Norton is inherited from William S. Burroughs and there lies the wink - the indication that Sinclair is on board with all of this. In 'Dining on Stones', there is a reference to his grandfather being a Norton that lived in San Francisco and claimed to be the 'Emperor othe United States'(p.439/440). 'The Postmodern Blues Prophecy' by Charlie Mitton references a book by Catherine Caufield called 'The Emperor of the United States and other great British Eccentrics'. In it Charlie notes that the picture on the front is of none other than Mad Sir Jack Mytton,he famous eccentric and drunkard of the late 18th/early 19th century who bears the same name as our owm Brummie of the Year - Matey talks of Miton avatars but here is one par excellence. Both characters the American norton and the English Mytton have, by coincidence, sections in the book. It is still rather strange though that Mitton should be the site of such a weird synchronicity but such is the Mittonian Strange Attractor. It is important to bear in mind that Sinclair is on board with all this and I have personal information that he is (remember in 'Dining on Stones' the reference to one Samuel Silverstein who died on the 23rd December. Sounds a bit Jewish, doesn't he? Death of course is the same but opposite of life).Which leads us lastly to the fact he also references in DOS a 'Brian Jones replacement audition'.That must be of course Nick Lane/ Martin Stone - the man who made Eric Clapton look boring and provincial. The Lost Guitarist with the hourglass stomach who oozes the style of Hubert Sumlin. And Charlie found the book 'In Search of Mitochondria' by a different Nick Lane on the very day that the film 'Stoned'(about Brian) is premiered in B'ham. Once again we can do in B'ham what the London metroplitan crowd can only write about.Keep on Running. Once again Gravy Hole turns up trumps for scoring 22 on Mastermind as he tells in his quoted posting. We have evidence indeed that he is under the influence of Thoth. Anyway just to show that The Major Triad are not alone in these notions, go to : http://www.technosophy.com/22enigma.htm or: http://130.94.228.228/22responses.htm |
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Derradah
Rank: Toyah |
Synchronicity 666 RErevisited
replied on: 12/19/2005 6:56:55 AM quote: Well done, Barri and Gravy Bowl.It is fortuitous not to say coincidental that Winstone's programme should be shown just at the time we needed it. What they're searching for at CERN is a gravitatinal wave - a heap of gravitons which are also bosons -the particles which hopefully mediate the known forces ( the strong and weak electromagnetic forces, the nuclear and gravity). What you're claiming is that your molecules of information - names numbers, events etc. have both a wave and particle function but also exist in the macroscopic and cosmological world of gravity. It brings consciosness in as well since these things are named and known phenomenologically in the real world.They are the co-ordinates of a non-linear geopmety. The graviton is said to be the size of a hair's breadth to billions of light years but scientists are sure that it exists. Similarly the alternative scientists are sure that not everything can be read mechanistically, especially DNA. Ask Sheldrake and now Hancock about this one. The mitochondria may of course be the junk DNA (inherited from a 22 yr. old mother)that contain this energy giving phenomenon. Highly contentious and full marks Barri but be careful not to logocentrically honour one paradigm over the other in your demonstration. The 22 yr. old mother with the mitochondrial DNA leads us back to that floating 22 signifier.I met Charlie at the Cannes Film Festival last year (he likes and knows the best, doesn't he? Nick Lowe and Madeleine Peyroux etc.). I was interested though by the death of his mate Big Red and how he was an undiscovered opera singer whose energy went into vodka. Maybe he was Charlie's 'gravitino'- the partner to the graviton which if found infers the presence of the graviton. Charlie said that if he had another dog he was going to name it George after the great footballer Bestie who died in November. Best, Law and Charlton eh! The other Major Triad before our own on the BINs site. As a Frenchman of mongrel extraction I think I should just mention Eric Cantona, the only footballer to quote the alchemist Rimbaud. Wasn't he the real catalyst in United's change of fortune in the 90s and a kick in the butt for Anglo-American logical positivism coming now through the Glazers. Charlie's name is almost the same as Charlie Mitten, another eccentric and the first soccer pay rebel. They play in red and Stan Gooch believes that red ochre was significant to some of our sub-species forebears on their burial sites. Perhaps they are proto-United fans communicating through a wave function. At least this puts us in Hancock territory. Anyway Big Red and George are dead. Best was 22 when he played for United against Benfica in '68 and became a legend in '66 when he destroyed them in a quarter final tie.I read the other day that he was read psalm 23 on his deathbed and possibly spoke his last words on the 23rd.Coincidence then that United should be playing Benfica just not long after his death but kind of fitting that they should lose and a little bit so that Beckham should wear no.23.What I am saying is that there may be energy to be gained in reading things according to non-linear dynamics of number. Or is that a bit Jewish? Charlie also told me at Cannes that six years ago in 1999 he found a cluster of books in the library all on the phiosophy of science. It was as if they had been put there deliberately by some alien beings from Sirius. They were : Steven Weinberg's''Dreams of a Final Theory'( advocate of CERN);Robert Osseman's 'Poetry of the Universe'(advocate of beauty in symmetry in mathematics) and Coveney and Highfield's 'The Arrow of Time'(advocate of Prigogine and asymmetry). They are all dated by library staff 22/12/99. 6 years ago. 666. A major coup and a Major Triad. |
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