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m8e Rank: Ozzy	"Premonition" posted on: 7/16/2005 12:08:24 AM On Newsnight Review this week, the usual assemblage of professional bores (I'm just an amateur) were discussing an art exhibition in London called "Warriors For The Working Day." This is a collection of paintings depicting life in Britain during the second world war, and includes a picture which was actually painted before the war, in 1938, called "Premonition." This consists of a compacted montage of London landmarks, painted so as to give a powerful impression of the (then) forthcoming blitz. However, the painting - which was hung at the exhibition on 7/7 - also depicts two London busses - one showing the number 77, and the other, number 30. How incredible is that? To actually learn something interesting from watching Newsnight Review?
m8e Rank: Ozzy	"Premonition" replied on: 7/16/2005 12:38:55 AM My mistake. This should, of course, have gone on the Mitton thread - home of all things spooky and coincidental.
m8e Rank: Ozzy	Premonition replied on: 7/21/2005 2:56:39 PM quote: On Newsnight Review this week, the usual assemblage of professional bores (I'm just an amateur) were discussing an art exhibition in London called "Warriors For The Working Day." This is a collection of paintings depicting life in Britain during the second world war, and includes a picture which was actually painted before the war, in 1938, called "Premonition." This consists of a compacted montage of London landmarks, painted so as to give a powerful impression of the (then) forthcoming blitz. However, the painting - which was hung at the exhibition on 7/7 - also depicts two London busses - one showing the number 77, and the other, number 30. How incredible is that? To actually learn something interesting from watching Newsnight Review? Well, I went down to London yesterday to have a look at the painting for myself, and it turns out to be even weirder than I imagined. First of all, there are at least seven busses represented in the picture, but only two of them display numbers, and indeed those fateful digits 77 and 30 are the only numbers to be seen within the entire painting. Furthermore, there is a slight smudge between the two 7's, so that they are initially perceived as two separate 7's, rather than as the number seventy-seven. Also, the way in which the picture was shown on Newsnight Review gave the false impression that it centred on St Pauls Cathedral, whereas its focal point is a disembodied head atop a ruined building, wearing a gasmask. Of course, despite the entire population being issued with gasmasks at the outbreak of WW2, no poisonous gas attack was ever launched against the civilian population. Is this, then, a yet to be realised element of this premonition? A psychonaut friend of mine reckons that what we're dealing with here is a "glitch in the Matrix." Fanciful maybe, but far more entertaining than dismissing it all with that trite and more or less meaningless phrase: "It's just a coincidence."
Russ-L Rank: Jasper	Premonition replied on: 7/21/2005 4:13:25 PM quote: A psychonaut friend of mine reckons that what we're dealing with here is a "glitch in the Matrix." Fanciful maybe, but far more entertaining than dismissing it all with that trite and more or less meaningless phrase: "It's just a coincidence." I'm reminded of the phycisist (frustratingly, I cannot for the life of me recall his name) who became thoroughly fed up with people going "Ooooooh spooky" at simple co-incidences. Out one day with a group of his more flagrantly offending friends, he suddenly stopped, apparently transfixed by something in the road. "What, what, what is the matter?" asked his companions. "That license plate!" he replied. "B345 CPQ! How amazing!" "What's so special about that number?" "Nothing, but out of all of the plates in this city - what are the chances of seeing that particular one?" Not directly relevant, I realise, but since you suggested a three-point evaluation of entertainment, triteness and lack of meaning I thought I'd try to scale the Everest of this thread so far.
Gravy Hole Rank: Oddie	Premonition replied on: 7/22/2005 12:44:10 PM quote: quote: A psychonaut friend of mine reckons that what we're dealing with here is a "glitch in the Matrix." Fanciful maybe, but far more entertaining than dismissing it all with that trite and more or less meaningless phrase: "It's just a coincidence." "That license plate!" he replied. "B345 CPQ! How amazing!" "What's so special about that number?" "Nothing, but out of all of the plates in this city - what are the chances of seeing that particular one?" It's totally amazing, nay, an impossibility. Mainly this is because the letter Q has never been used in numberplates, except for a short period during the 70/80's and then only on kit-cars and privately imported vehicles, i.e. ABC 123 Q. Sorry to be a pedant. But I get your point!
Russ-L Rank: Jasper	I MUST POST A SUBJECT! Since when? replied on: 7/22/2005 7:48:31 PM Heh. I was expecting the pedantry to issue forth on the grounds of American number-plates not having that sequence of numbers/letters (they might have. I don't know either way), but fair enough. I obviously cannot predict as well as... what is the artist's name, anyway?
Gravy Hole Rank: Oddie	I MUST POST A SUBJECT! Since when? replied on: 7/25/2005 11:32:08 AM It was in America? That's probably ok then. Perhaps you could be more specific in future to avoid understandable pedantistic mistakes occurring. Thank you.
Russ-L Rank: Jasper	Why do we have to post subjects now? replied on: 7/25/2005 3:58:31 PM I had not, up until this point, realised that I hadn't mentioned it. I will endeavour to be more vigilant henceforth.
m8e Rank: Ozzy	Premonition replied on: 7/25/2005 5:30:03 PM quote: I obviously cannot predict as well as... what is the artist's name, anyway? Premonition was painted by Walter Nessler - a German who emigrated to England in 1937 after the nazis declared his paintings to be "degenerate." A possible (very) vague Mittonian connection is that Nessler was orginally from Dresden, where Charlie had an amazingly coincidental meeting with an English film writer and Sinclair fan when he was busking there a few years ago (he really set the place alight).
Russ-L Rank: Jasper	Nuts to these subjects. replied on: 7/25/2005 5:37:38 PM Too full o' the milk of human faaaaroooutmaaaan-ness to catch the nearest way. Surely degeneracy is the parallel?
Gravy Hole Rank: Oddie	Premonition replied on: 7/26/2005 9:41:11 AM quote: quote: A possible (very) vague Mittonian connection is that Nessler was orginally from Dresden, where Charlie had an amazingly coincidental meeting with an English film writer and Sinclair fan when he was busking there a few years ago (he really set the place alight). What? Rather like the RAF? Dresden is twinned with Coventry. Now that is a co-incidence.
Russ-L Rank: Jasper	Subject, subject, subject replied on: 7/26/2005 4:22:20 PM They were twinned after the war as a conciliatory gesture. It's about as co-incidental as Cannon And Ball appearing on stage together after they decided to become a double-act. Albeit as not scarring on the collective human consciousness.
Gravy Hole Rank: Oddie	Subject, subject, subject replied on: 7/27/2005 9:33:50 AM I was being dry for comic effect. And failing miserably, rather like Cannon and Ball. Surely anyone who sits through a Cannon and Ball show must have a mental illness?
racheymaus old hand Rank: Chinny	Subhuman, submissive, subjective replied on: 7/27/2005 7:25:21 PM Didn't the Cannon and the Ball get born again, as in Christians. Make your own jokes relating this to mental illness in the interests of harmony between the religious communities.
Russ-L Rank: Jasper	Subhuman, submissive, subjective replied on: 7/27/2005 8:25:41 PM quote: Didn't the Cannon and the Ball get born again, as in Christians. Make your own jokes relating this to mental illness in the interests of harmony between the religious communities. What if we refuse?
Russ-L Rank: Jasper	Subject, subject, subject replied on: 7/27/2005 8:26:57 PM quote: I was being dry for comic effect. And failing miserably, rather like Cannon and Ball. I know. I just wanted an excuse to mention Cannon & Ball.
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