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Rowley-Russ
Rank: Toyah





M8e
replied on: 2/8/2007 8:25:56 PM

Heresy.

Russell's misheard lyrics no. #787,381: For a long, long time I thought that song was about "Red-Eyed Love."
m8e
Rank: Ozzy





M8e
replied on: 2/9/2007 6:17:09 AM

quote:
Heresy.

Russell's misheard lyrics no. #787,381: For a long, long time I thought that song was about "Red-Eyed Love."



If they re-released it today it would be "SatNav Love."
H.J.






Behind the Mirror...
replied on: 2/15/2007 10:12:36 AM

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We learn that on April 23rd 1992 there was evidence from the COBE satellite which was said by Michael Turner of the University of Chicago to be the Holy Grail of cosmology and was equally lauded by Stephen Hawking as ' the scientific discovery of the century - if not all time'. It was about how 'cosmic structure formation... resulted from random quantum flux, the smallest phenomenon in nature' (p.167).
There are implications here for the Bins thesis which are of some magnitude if we collapse them with 10 to the power of 23 molecules of gas quoted by F.David Peat in his book on synchronicity and Penrose's quoting of 10 to the 10 to the 23 chance of a 'Creator' finding the spot in phase space that would accommodate a universe or the 23 chromosomes from the female and 23 from the male that forms the basic structure of that weird phenomenon of self-reflexive life itself. So, yes, Sinclair with his connection to Burroughs who kicked of the '23'Enigma should, I think, be interested.


Some other people who were interested in synchronicity and the 23 Enigma were the rave collective Spiral Tribe.
In his brilliant history of rave culture, "Energy Flash," Simon Reynolds gives the following account of meeting them -

"I first met Spiral Tribe a few months prior to Castlemorton. Within minutes, I'm informed that I'm already part of the cosmic 'spiral.' Synchronicity is at work: my T-shirt, of sampler-wielding cyber-punks The Young Gods, happens to have a luminous spiral in the middle. What's more, there are pictures of bees on the sleeves, which echo a recent Spiral Tribe rave at a farm, where a hive was knocked over, unleashing a vast cloud of bees. Even more synchronistically, the farm was in Hertfordshire, a county with which the Tribe claim a 'special connection,' and where I just so happen to have spent my childhood. The Tribe grin like maniacs, each coincidence confirming their mystical worldview.
A week after the squat-party, I get the chance to interrogate Spiral Tribe in the aftermath of another event, this time at a derelict pub. On the wall, someone has aerosol-sprayed a pentogram with the number 23 in one corner. The uncanny power and alleged omnipresence of the number 23 is one of a motley array of mystical beliefs to which the Spirals subscribe. All Spiral Tribe phone lines contain the number. And Castlemorton kicked off on 23 May. '23 is gonna slap you in the face, freak you out, it'll really start to make you doubt your security in what you know,' the Tribe's spokesman warns me, promising that I'll start seeing the number all over the place. (I don't)"

Reynolds then goes on to mention that some of the Spirals eventually settled in Paris, where they founded the Network 23 record label, however (quote) -

"...others in the Spiral milieu succumbed to drug abuse, becoming serious psychonauts (in the Tribal worldview, LSD and ketamine had long been regarded as altogether more hardcore than 'fluffy' Ecstasy), junkies, crackheads, or just members of 'the Brew Crew.'"

For more on Spiral Tribe and Network 23, go to their excellent MySpace site.


Falsedog should have made his comments on this thread since the finding of this film '23' coincides with these 'spiral Tribe' comments. Thing is though in browsing through the threads I've discerned how 23s seem to have arrived unexpectedly of their own volition rather than have a group of freaks making a big noise about them first.
Barriminge
Rank: Jasper





Behind the Mirror...
replied on: 2/17/2007 3:23:58 PM

Let's face it, mate. The case is now proved. It's over and it's all been worthwhile. After all the carping on about Iain we finally demonstrated that he was a prohetic writer.Who would have expected something like Ipswich to have happened. That seemed to be the end and I was ready to contribute no more. But then Falsedog's telling us about that film is so much an ACOP given the circumstances that I do think m8e should have the last word since it is his thread...
m8e
Rank: Ozzy





Behind the Mirror...
replied on: 2/18/2007 1:10:12 AM

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Let's face it, mate. The case is now proved. It's over and it's all been worthwhile. After all the carping on about Iain we finally demonstrated that he was a prohetic writer.Who would have expected something like Ipswich to have happened. That seemed to be the end and I was ready to contribute no more. But then Falsedog's telling us about that film is so much an ACOP given the circumstances that I do think m8e should have the last word since it is his thread...


There are no "last words," other than forlorn attempts to entropically stanch the forever onward rush of negentropic chaotic happenstance.
Barriminge
Rank: Jasper





Behind the Mirror...
replied on: 2/20/2007 9:17:58 AM

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Let's face it, mate. The case is now proved. It's over and it's all been worthwhile. After all the carping on about Iain we finally demonstrated that he was a prohetic writer.Who would have expected something like Ipswich to have happened. That seemed to be the end and I was ready to contribute no more. But then Falsedog's telling us about that film is so much an ACOP given the circumstances that I do think m8e should have the last word since it is his thread...


There are no "last words," other than forlorn attempts to entropically stanch the forever onward rush of negentropic chaotic happenstance.


Indeed, the very existence of this very thread seemed to have been conceived by Russ just as the Mitton thread had run its course and it was about time that the spotlight fell on m8e.So Chaz tells me that it has been said that Russ is 23 yrs. old so that must be of some occult significance. I was however myself gobsmacked the other day to discover another large door as I was browsing through a book on Derrida. I came upon the following:

"Through meditation the Madhyamika Buddhist will first of all try to deconstruct her own painful emotions - such as anger. Attacked by the deconstructive logic of Buddhism, painful emotions taper off to nothing - just like a Zen riddle."

And then in a thought bubble emanating from a Mad Hatter sitting at a tea party with Alice in a graphic cartoon demonstration was written:

"BY THE WAY - WHAT DO A RAVEN AND A WRITING DESK HAVE IN COMMON?"

(Derrida for Beginners. Jim Powell. P.165)

Bearing in mind the ravens and Koans or Kaons that have gone before, I thought it constituted a bit of an ACOP.
Rowley-Russ
Rank: Toyah





Behind the Mirror...
replied on: 2/20/2007 9:27:59 AM

Russ stopped being 23 years old a good while ago. I think it was about a year after he started it. He has little phases like that.
Gravy Hole
Rank: Oddie
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This message was updated on 2/20/2007 10:59:15 AM by Gravy Hole

Behind the Mirror...
replied on: 2/20/2007 10:57:36 AM

Russ, it looks like Jim Powell failed to ask the right question too. What do they have in common indeed! Unless of course the answer is different...?
Rowley-Russ
Rank: Toyah





Behind the Mirror...
replied on: 2/20/2007 2:52:16 PM

They have in common a semantically similar description of difference. This is something we established before but I couldn't be arsed to argue about.
m8e
Rank: Ozzy





Behind the Mirror...
replied on: 2/20/2007 10:45:44 PM

So where did you originally come across the raven question then, Russ?
Rowley-Russ
Rank: Toyah





This message was updated on 2/21/2007 5:32:06 PM by Rowley-Russ

Behind the Mirror...
replied on: 2/21/2007 7:29:11 AM

It's originally from 'Alice In Wonderland' and famously so.

"Twinkle, twinkle, little bat,
How I wonder what you're at!"
m8e
Rank: Ozzy





Behind the Mirror...
replied on: 2/21/2007 4:29:20 PM

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It's originally from 'Alice In Wonderland' and famously so.



Ah yes, the Reverend Charles Dodgson - every quantum physicist's favourite druggy nonce.
Rowley-Russ
Rank: Toyah





Behind the Mirror...
replied on: 2/21/2007 5:32:35 PM

Bless his little Five Pin Din Plug heart.
Rowley-Russ
Rank: Toyah





This message was updated on 2/22/2007 9:44:12 PM by Rowley-Russ

Behind the Mirror...
replied on: 2/22/2007 9:39:16 PM

Yo, Mateylicious: Did you know about this one?

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ANAAL NATHRAKH

April, 21 2007 at Purple Turtle
Camden, London,
Cost :

Infernal Damnation festival - an announcement will doubtless appear on www.arcanepromotions.co.uk to this effect within the next few days with info on other bands etc.



I didn't. Until just now.

I'll be in Manchester for the UFC that night, though.

EDIT: And, suddenly having a nasty feeling about turns this thread might take, I should point out that the writing books/biting rooks answer is not Lewis Carroll's own.
m8e
Rank: Ozzy





Behind the Mirror...
replied on: 2/23/2007 1:00:11 PM

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Yo, Mateylicious: Did you know about <a href=http://collect.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=music.showDetails&Band_Show_ID=11883682&friendid=8908955 target=_blank>this one</a>?

quote:
ANAAL NATHRAKH

April, 21 2007 at Purple Turtle
Camden, London,
Cost :

Infernal Damnation festival - an announcement will doubtless appear on www.arcanepromotions.co.uk to this effect within the next few days with info on other bands etc.



I didn't. Until just now.



Thanks Russ.
I'll definitely be putting on my stalking shoes for that one.
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